tunze wavebox in action

[rvitko]

Melev, we will see. They are out of booths now as I understand it so I couldn't change plans if I wanted too. If one of my vendors will have a tank there I will try to work something out with them. They should be available by that time so likely they will be part of discussion. I am just trade showed out, in the past 6 months I have done 3 of thse shows and when you are standing at a booth all day after stressing for a week about set up they get old real fast.

Trickman 2 - The patent applies to the basic prinicpal of using resonance to generate flow. I don't have the patent number but it is patented and from what I understand locked down air tight. If you go back through this thread it has all been discussed already. The box is a standard comline box measuring about 4.5" square by 11" tall.

FLCL787!- It will work, actually the final production version should work on anything bigger than 30". The unit I was sent had an earlier prototype controller and couldn't be pulsed fast enough for anything shorter than four feet.

 

[Trickman2]

Roger I was only asking for the patent number because I wanted to understand how it works.

 

[rvitko]

OK, basically inside is a specially modified stream, it is an electronic stream somewhere between models 6100 and 6200 in power and with a special reinforcing and sound dampening structure. This is placed inside a 2L box. The wavebox controller pulses the pump at a speed anywhere between .25 and 1.5seconds. The box empties and fills as the pump turns on and off. Using the principal of resonance as the water pulses bounce off the wall and return if the frequency is just right they build on one another to produce waves.

 

[Cody Ray]

That is so cool, reminds me of how me and my friends would jump up and down inside my pool and cause half the water to go shooting out the other side!!! Of course, the pool broke open on one end afterward and flooded the entire back yard! After seeing that, I can see why some people are worried about putting the wavebox inside their aquariums!

 

[Trickman2]

Nice sounds awesome. Too bad they are going to cost so much. If they where around 250 I would have to get one.

 

[skeets]

can we get over the price issues already? Lol...

 

[Trickman2]

NO

 

[melev]

Roger, where does the water exit? Out some holes along the base? Just wondering if those pulses would displace a DSB directly beneath it?

 

[minimasterflash]

OK, basically inside is a specially modified stream, it is an electronic stream somewhere between models 6100 and 6200 in power and with a special reinforcing and sound dampening structure. This is placed inside a 2L box. The wavebox controller pulses the pump at a speed anywhere between .25 and 1.5seconds. The box empties and fills as the pump turns on and off. Using the principal of resonance as the water pulses bounce off the wall and return if the frequency is just right they build on one another to produce waves.

This sounds like a fluid analogy to a Bose "Wave" speaker box, or more specifically a band-pass subwoofer box. Where the "speaker" in the Tunze invention is the stream pump.

If Tunze has a patent on that in America, I cannot find it listed as filed or accepted at the USPTO site.

 

[rvitko]

Marc it exits the front of the box, it should cause a dune formation over time with fine sand.

 

[mikefish]

I like the audio speaker analogy. Since I saw this I've thought that a linear activator, similar to a speaker cone, or like the Wave2k mechanism, would be a simpler way of achieving the same effect. Someone mentioned the Wave2k earlier in this thread, asking if this was the original intended effect of that device. I don't think it was, but with a different actuating mechanism, capable of higher frequecy changes, I think it would work. It would be interesting to find out if such a mechanism could work using a smaller box than the Tunze device, or if it in fact needed a box at all as it would be working very much like the person jumping up and down in the pool.

We are basically talking about a very low frequency (0.67-4.0 Hz)underwater speaker box here.
Mike

 

[Trickman2]

?

 

[iloveinn]

forget the Tunze wave box!!

I have an even better and cheaper idea:
Just wave your hand back and forth, and you'll create exactly the same function

now if only I can get someone to do that to my tank 24/7...

 

[Trickman2]

The sun in Bakerfields must have Bake something else. Maybe your Brain.

 

[iloveinn]

dude relax, I was just joking

 

[Cody Ray]

For a while I was actually thinking of finding something that could dunk and pull up an object to create the frequency. Kind of like when you jump up and down in a pool.

 

[RGibson]

The Tunze wave box is only good if you can buy one,if is like the Tunze Streams it will be a long time coming.

 

[hollywood85]

So will the 7095 control streams, moonlight and the wave box? Or will it still need the 6091? Thanks! Planning a new tank and would love to have one of these. Do yo have any more info on overflow placement? Thanks!

 

[rvitko]

The wavebox has it's own controller- included. Connecting it to the multicontroller just turns it off for night mode and when the respective channel is off during a program.

 

[hollywood85]

Gotch ya. Thanks!