tunze wavebox in action
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NuclearReefs
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Ill be at fish gallery on saturday,, want a few torts for that Marc?
Hi Roger,
I saw the movies of the tank that have been one of the topics of this thread. I've read most of thread and didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t see these questions so sorry if it's already been asked. I was wondering how adjustable this wavebox is going to be? From the look of the tank in the movie the surges are too close together time wise to mimic the real ocean, will that be adjustable? Will all of us with standard built in over flow boxes have to drill the slots longer to reduce the height of water in our tanks in order to use the product? Will we want to redo our returns so they are spread more equally in the tank so not to hamper the wave created by the wavebox or reduce our over turn rate? Lastly if we have acrylic tanks will we have to cut a square in the top so that the wavebox will protrude above tank level? So far this looks like the product that should have been invented along time ago. Hats off to you guys a Tunze for all the great designs, now hurry up and release it.
Thanks,
Damien
I saw the movies of the tank that have been one of the topics of this thread. I've read most of thread and didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t see these questions so sorry if it's already been asked. I was wondering how adjustable this wavebox is going to be? From the look of the tank in the movie the surges are too close together time wise to mimic the real ocean, will that be adjustable? Will all of us with standard built in over flow boxes have to drill the slots longer to reduce the height of water in our tanks in order to use the product? Will we want to redo our returns so they are spread more equally in the tank so not to hamper the wave created by the wavebox or reduce our over turn rate? Lastly if we have acrylic tanks will we have to cut a square in the top so that the wavebox will protrude above tank level? So far this looks like the product that should have been invented along time ago. Hats off to you guys a Tunze for all the great designs, now hurry up and release it.
Thanks,
Damien
It works on the principle of resonance frequency, each tank has just one possible frequency so while you can adjust the frequency, only one will create a wave. The exception is long tanks which can have a double wave or quadruple wave. You really shouldn't have to change anything. The show tank at interzoo was exagerated to make a bigger wave. The tank is very long and narrow with few obstacles and a pump that is slightly stronger than the final version. Expect only a 1" to 1/2" wave from the final version. As for Acrylic nobody knows yet. I suspect it will work with the magnet holder but that will be the only possibility.
NuclearReefs
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Roger,, has anyone placed one in a corner location of say a 4 foot cube yet? Im really curious about how this would work.....
NuclearReefs
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now thats what Id like to have then,, I want a pentagonal tank with rounded corner that wraps around the corners and a 12 foot long straight away so the wave wraps around my living room and then doubles back,,,,,, CAN YAH SEE IT? hehehe
melev
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melev said:No, it wasn't actively running. They had it on the table with a pre-order pricetag. I just didn't realize it was using a Stream pump so it got me to thinking.... I have that second un-used Stream so I thought maybe I should just convert it a tad further and have one Wavebox, one Stream, and my returns.
So Roger, is this taboo-talk?
Did you get your translations done on time?
I wrote the manual for the 7095 in English and they translated it to German and French. The wavebox is in their hands totally. I just don't know that the parts will be offered to do this. Realistically it would be an expensive conversion, likely $200 or more so you could come out ahead selling the Stream and buying the wavebox.
Roger,
So based on this info from a site down in Australia (MASA, Marine Aquarium Societies of Australia) the U.S. retail should be right around $640 ??
"The recommended retail price from AquaDepot Imports (Australian Tunze Distributor) is $917.25, and should be available in November....."
So based on this info from a site down in Australia (MASA, Marine Aquarium Societies of Australia) the U.S. retail should be right around $640 ??
"The recommended retail price from AquaDepot Imports (Australian Tunze Distributor) is $917.25, and should be available in November....."
Homey the Reefkeeper
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Roger, any idea what kind of effect the wavebox would have on a system such as 460gallons (72x48x30) and would it require the same setup as the 180gal you described a few posts earlier? Should there be extra considerations made for building the tank since there will be added stress to the tank glass?
David
David
The wavebox has to be aimed lengthwise but it doesn't matter if it is centered or in a corner.
For a 480 you would need two waveboxes, one full usit 6212 and one dummy 6212.50 and they would be on the same side with Synchron program selected and likely you would get a 1/2-3/4" wave. You would want 1 or 2 6200's depending on the total amount of flow from returns etc. to carry away the suspended detritus. The wavebox does increase the stress on an aquarium. How much is hard to say. In Germany aquariums are built to a standard called DIN, you see many German products say meets DIN standard .... In Germany they have an institute Deutsche Institut Normalization that issues standards for all types of products and services and policies so it is uniform. Basically, on a DIN standard tank the life expectancy when properly installed is 20 years, the approximate loss of life from a wavebox is 2-3 years. In the US we have no standard so I would expect the better tanks to be comparable but the lower quality and very old tanks could have much drastically shorter lives.
For a 480 you would need two waveboxes, one full usit 6212 and one dummy 6212.50 and they would be on the same side with Synchron program selected and likely you would get a 1/2-3/4" wave. You would want 1 or 2 6200's depending on the total amount of flow from returns etc. to carry away the suspended detritus. The wavebox does increase the stress on an aquarium. How much is hard to say. In Germany aquariums are built to a standard called DIN, you see many German products say meets DIN standard .... In Germany they have an institute Deutsche Institut Normalization that issues standards for all types of products and services and policies so it is uniform. Basically, on a DIN standard tank the life expectancy when properly installed is 20 years, the approximate loss of life from a wavebox is 2-3 years. In the US we have no standard so I would expect the better tanks to be comparable but the lower quality and very old tanks could have much drastically shorter lives.
OK, the wavebox is due about the same time as the 7095- last week of October, first week of November. They have all the parts ready, basically they are just accumulating parts for production and finalizing the manual.
I was wrong and it will require two magnet holders- it is an exception because the action tends to rock the box back and forth and it will walk across the aquarium unless you use two holders.
For a small tank 150 or less, one stream and one wavebox, on opposite sides sharing the multicontroller would be the ideal. Every 6 hours they switch and only one is on at a time. On a 180 to 300 two Streams and one wavebox with the Stream on the side of the wavebox running and then the opposite stream taking over by itself at 6 hr intervals.
On big tanks when you use two waveboxes it is more complicated because you cannot coordinate a dual wavebox configuration with the multicontroller. This will all depend on tank shape and likely involve a fair amount of trial and error.
I was wrong and it will require two magnet holders- it is an exception because the action tends to rock the box back and forth and it will walk across the aquarium unless you use two holders.
For a small tank 150 or less, one stream and one wavebox, on opposite sides sharing the multicontroller would be the ideal. Every 6 hours they switch and only one is on at a time. On a 180 to 300 two Streams and one wavebox with the Stream on the side of the wavebox running and then the opposite stream taking over by itself at 6 hr intervals.
On big tanks when you use two waveboxes it is more complicated because you cannot coordinate a dual wavebox configuration with the multicontroller. This will all depend on tank shape and likely involve a fair amount of trial and error.
Sorry to bother you again but there is something that is not clear yet; when you said that two holders are the correct way to go (I suppose that with 2 small ones will be sufficient), do you think this two holders could fit in the back? are you sure that the space between the holdres in the wavebox let to put the two margnets against the back wall with enough space not to be the bases one over the other ? (hope I could explain correct what I tray to say)
