Tuxedo Urchin

Romulox234

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I heard these guys were good agae eaters, im looking to get one to get rid of my hair algae.

But what else do they eat, i heard they eat detrius do they also eat bits of mysis and bloodworms that land on the sand during feeding time?

If i have to supplement his diet with nori can i put it on the clip and he'll climb the side of the glass or can they not do that?
 
Mine has done a number on the coraline on the back wall. He works his way around the glass and the rock. I can't recall that I've ever seem him near the algae clip.
 
just wana make sure he has enough to eat,

I heard its benificial when they eat the coraline it releases the psores have you noticed increase coraline growth at all?
 
Mine has trouble finding the small tufts of hair algae and they can't eat it if it's growing out of a crevase. Urchins leave a trail of white rock and keeps the corraline in good control (not necessarily a desirable trait) as for the little white balle coming out of the top hole, I've seen no increase in corraline from it.
 
Mine ate hair algae... Seemed to eat every type of algae except for bubble. I dont know why people have an issue with them eating coraline, sure there are white streaks across the live rock where it has been, but it grows back rather quick.

Once my tank was cleaned of algae I would rubber band a strip of nori to a piece of rock and place it near the urchin, it would devour it, very easy to feed. The only reason my first one died is a rock fell on it, I had my rocks stacked precariously and the urchin gave it just the right nudge, came home to my hermits feasting on uni.

I love how they decorate themselves, mine even picked up some zoos and carried them around for a few months, I am surprised that the zoos didnt really seem to mind.
 
Mine eats GHA. He does a good job at mowing it down, but doesn't get all areas of the rock. I have two rock structures in my tank, and he can't see to go from one structure, over the sand, to the next. I've never seen him on the sand bed at all. But maybe he hasn't done that because he hasn't ever run out of GHA on the rock structure he's on. I've picked up to move him to the other rock structure. I've never seen him on the glass or overflow either.
I put him on the overflow because there was a LOT of GHA there, but he just ended up wedging himself up high between the glass and the edge of the overflow, and didn't seem happy there (maybe because it's completely vertical??) so I moved him back to the rock.
Pam
 
Mine takes the "buffet" approach and nibbles on a bit of everything. I figure since both of the two I have are cool looking, it's good enough for me. I let the trochus and turbos do the rest ;)
 
I would try to solve the reason you have hair algae before adding a creature that will eat it.

Algae lives on phosphate and nitrates. If you have algae you have P04 and No3. Add a media reactor with phosban. Siphon all of the algae you can out of the tank during water changes. Make sure you are not over feeding and that your skimmer is pulling as much as it can. Make sure all of your sponges are clean and that there are no dead spots where detritus can settle.
 
The reason i have gha is because the skimmer is a total piece of crap that doesnt skim anything but i dont have the money to go out and buy a 150-200 dollar skimmer right now,

I figure if i get the urchin it will at least help control it until i can get a new skimmer
 
I've picked up to move him to the other rock structure.
Pam


How do you lift up the urchin? I've tried to pick up my tuxedo urchin and found it attached to the rock so tightly that all I did was pick the tuft of chaeto growing on it. Left the poor guy naked.
 
I just carefully pull him off. I try to not pull from underneath so that I don't pull out any spines. He is attached pretty tightly, but it kind of feels like I'm pulling apart two pieces of velcro. I don't bother him often. I'm only moved him 2 or 3 times in a couple months. Pam

How do you lift up the urchin? I've tried to pick up my tuxedo urchin and found it attached to the rock so tightly that all I did was pick the tuft of chaeto growing on it. Left the poor guy naked.
 
Well its been a while since I have posted this so...

*NOTE* I removed the detailed information on all but the Tuxedo.

Sea Urchins

Scientific Information:

Phylum: Echinodermata
Class: Echinoidea
Order: Multiple. See below

Common Names:
Pin Cushion, Tuxedo, Long Spine(v), Short Spine, Pencil(sn), Flower(vv), Fire(vv), Sand Dollar(sn)

v = venomous
vv = very venomous
sn = special needs

Origin:
Pin Cushion - Caribbean
Tuxedo - Indo-Pacific
Long Spine - Indo-Pacific
Short Spine - Indo-Pacific
Pencil - Indo-Pacific

Introduction:
This article is divided into four sections. General Information, Reef Safe Urchins, Special Needs Urchins, and Urchins to avoid. General Information contains general notes on husbandry while the other sections deal with specific species broken out by type of urchin and contains specific details on tank size, diet requirements, special needs, and the like.

General Information:
There are about eight different kinds of urchin, including the sand dollar, sold in the trade. Their habitats range from the Atlantic to the Indo-Pacific and Caribbean. Most urchins are reef safe with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous and will eat corals as well as fish and the very pretty but very venomous flower and fire urchins.

Urchins tend to be some of the more unusual and potentially entertaining additions to a cleanup crew and actually cut down substantially on the required number and diversity of said crew. In general one urchin can handle the job of several glass cleaning snails and several rock cleaning snails and hermits. They are no harder than other invertebrates, like crabs and hermits, to keep and do a good job relative to their size of keeping control of algae. While urchins tend to be nocturnal, many will come out during daylight hours.

The best Urchin for Nano tanks are the Tuxedo's as they remain relatively small while still providing entertainment and high cleaning to relative size value. Watching them work is interesting especially when they are on the glass and their mouth can be seen in operation. They will eat all kinds of algae including diatoms, green hair, etc and there is anecdotal evidence of them eating cyno as well.

There are three downsides to having an urchin in the tank. If the urchin selected is a Pinchushion or Tuxedo and there are small loose bits of rock, small bits of coral or frags, or hermits and snails in the tank the Urchin may take them for a free ride around the tank on its back. The reason for this is that this subspecies uses shells and loose strata as tactile and visual camouflage from their natural predators. Urchins are also very strong for their size and can inadvertently topple corals and/or rocks as they move about the tank. The caution used when putting a turbo snail into a tank would be the same for an urchin. Make sure the rocks and corals are stable and not easy to move. Finally, urchins eat all kinds of algae including coraline.

Predators:
Urchins are not recommended in a tank that contains any:

starfish
triggers
some types of larger wrasse
puffers
anglers
squirrels
snappers
sharks
rays
porkfish
parrot fish
harlequins

as urchins are a natural prey of these animals.

Diet:
Most Urchins are either herbivores or omnivores with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous. Urchins will eat all forms of micro-algae from all surfaces including rock work, glass, and substrate.

If algae is not prolific in the tank it is best to supplementally feed urchins with some form of sea weed such as Nori. A 2"x2" sheet about once every week or so should be sufficient.

Feeding can be handled in one of two ways. First, hang it on the glass or rock where they will find it. Second, hand feed them. If hand feeding the urchin will do something called an "urchin kiss" where their spines will gently grasp the tip of your finger as their sensory tentacles explore if you are worth eating. Press the sea weed gently on the spine or place it in the urchin's path and allow it to roll up on it.

Acclimation Process:
Gradual. If the delta between the salinity level they are used to and your tank is too high they can get salinity shock. An example acclimation method would be to place the urchin in a bucket or container with the water it came with, a heater, and a very small power head. Over a 30 to 40 minute period remove 4 oz of old water and replace it with 4 oz of water from your tank repeating every 7-10 minutes for about 30-40 minutes. (Note this assumes you have more than 12 oz of original water and that the original water is not fouled or contaminated. Drip method would be best if you do not have at least 12 oz of original water)

Things to watch out for:
If an urchin's spines fall off they are most likely dying and there isn't much that can be done to save them. While it is possible to attempt rehabilitation via a hospital tank coupled with offering allot of food like nori usually by the time the spines are falling off it is too late and humane euthanization such as via freezing is more appropriate. It is important to remove the urchin from the tank as soon as spine loss is observed as delay could cause the urchin to expire in a location difficult to access or see which would cause a spike in the tank.

As with all invertebrates copper based medications are fatal to urchins.

Urchins are also sensitive to rapid shifts in salinity and can get salinity shock which can be fatal.

Urchins do not tolerate high nitrates. If there are high nitrates in the tank an urchin will shed its spines.

Wound treatment from an urchin stick:
Spine sticks from urchins can be quite painful and in the case of flowerpot or fire urchins or with people who have allergies fatal. Prompt treatment is important to reduce pain and swelling as well as the risk of infection.

If stuck by a flame or flowerpot urchin, if you have a allergy, or feel unwell or concerned seek appropriate treatment immediately from a medical professional.

If stuck by an urchin spine remove the spines as quickly as possible. You will not get all of the spine and this will hurt but it is important to remove them quickly to minimize pain. Do not dig out the spine as this can do more damage and cause higher risk than leaving it in and allowing it to work its way out. Next soak the affected area with vinegar followed by a hot water soak at the highest temperature you can stand followed again by a vinegar soak. This should minimize the pain and swelling/stiffness associated with an urchin stick.

And specifically for the Tuxedo:

Common Name: Tuxedo (blue or black)
Scientific Name: Mespillia Globulus
Max size: 2 Inches
Tank size: 15 gallon+ (with feeding)
Food: All kinds of algae
Reef safe: Yes if well fed
Notes:
Will pick up debris/shells/rocks/etc as camouflage. If it isn't then it may be sick or dying
May need supplemental feeding with nori if in 30+ gallon tank and will need supplemental feeding if in smaller tank
 
Well its been a while since I have posted this so...

*NOTE* I removed the detailed information on all but the Tuxedo.

Sea Urchins

Scientific Information:

Phylum: Echinodermata
Class: Echinoidea
Order: Multiple. See below

Common Names:
Pin Cushion, Tuxedo, Long Spine(v), Short Spine, Pencil(sn), Flower(vv), Fire(vv), Sand Dollar(sn)

v = venomous
vv = very venomous
sn = special needs

Origin:
Pin Cushion - Caribbean
Tuxedo - Indo-Pacific
Long Spine - Indo-Pacific
Short Spine - Indo-Pacific
Pencil - Indo-Pacific

Introduction:
This article is divided into four sections. General Information, Reef Safe Urchins, Special Needs Urchins, and Urchins to avoid. General Information contains general notes on husbandry while the other sections deal with specific species broken out by type of urchin and contains specific details on tank size, diet requirements, special needs, and the like.

General Information:
There are about eight different kinds of urchin, including the sand dollar, sold in the trade. Their habitats range from the Atlantic to the Indo-Pacific and Caribbean. Most urchins are reef safe with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous and will eat corals as well as fish and the very pretty but very venomous flower and fire urchins.

Urchins tend to be some of the more unusual and potentially entertaining additions to a cleanup crew and actually cut down substantially on the required number and diversity of said crew. In general one urchin can handle the job of several glass cleaning snails and several rock cleaning snails and hermits. They are no harder than other invertebrates, like crabs and hermits, to keep and do a good job relative to their size of keeping control of algae. While urchins tend to be nocturnal, many will come out during daylight hours.

The best Urchin for Nano tanks are the Tuxedo's as they remain relatively small while still providing entertainment and high cleaning to relative size value. Watching them work is interesting especially when they are on the glass and their mouth can be seen in operation. They will eat all kinds of algae including diatoms, green hair, etc and there is anecdotal evidence of them eating cyno as well.

There are three downsides to having an urchin in the tank. If the urchin selected is a Pinchushion or Tuxedo and there are small loose bits of rock, small bits of coral or frags, or hermits and snails in the tank the Urchin may take them for a free ride around the tank on its back. The reason for this is that this subspecies uses shells and loose strata as tactile and visual camouflage from their natural predators. Urchins are also very strong for their size and can inadvertently topple corals and/or rocks as they move about the tank. The caution used when putting a turbo snail into a tank would be the same for an urchin. Make sure the rocks and corals are stable and not easy to move. Finally, urchins eat all kinds of algae including coraline.

Predators:
Urchins are not recommended in a tank that contains any:

starfish
triggers
some types of larger wrasse
puffers
anglers
squirrels
snappers
sharks
rays
porkfish
parrot fish
harlequins

as urchins are a natural prey of these animals.

Diet:
Most Urchins are either herbivores or omnivores with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous. Urchins will eat all forms of micro-algae from all surfaces including rock work, glass, and substrate.

If algae is not prolific in the tank it is best to supplementally feed urchins with some form of sea weed such as Nori. A 2"x2" sheet about once every week or so should be sufficient.

Feeding can be handled in one of two ways. First, hang it on the glass or rock where they will find it. Second, hand feed them. If hand feeding the urchin will do something called an "urchin kiss" where their spines will gently grasp the tip of your finger as their sensory tentacles explore if you are worth eating. Press the sea weed gently on the spine or place it in the urchin's path and allow it to roll up on it.

Acclimation Process:
Gradual. If the delta between the salinity level they are used to and your tank is too high they can get salinity shock. An example acclimation method would be to place the urchin in a bucket or container with the water it came with, a heater, and a very small power head. Over a 30 to 40 minute period remove 4 oz of old water and replace it with 4 oz of water from your tank repeating every 7-10 minutes for about 30-40 minutes. (Note this assumes you have more than 12 oz of original water and that the original water is not fouled or contaminated. Drip method would be best if you do not have at least 12 oz of original water)

Things to watch out for:
If an urchin's spines fall off they are most likely dying and there isn't much that can be done to save them. While it is possible to attempt rehabilitation via a hospital tank coupled with offering allot of food like nori usually by the time the spines are falling off it is too late and humane euthanization such as via freezing is more appropriate. It is important to remove the urchin from the tank as soon as spine loss is observed as delay could cause the urchin to expire in a location difficult to access or see which would cause a spike in the tank.

As with all invertebrates copper based medications are fatal to urchins.

Urchins are also sensitive to rapid shifts in salinity and can get salinity shock which can be fatal.

Urchins do not tolerate high nitrates. If there are high nitrates in the tank an urchin will shed its spines.

Wound treatment from an urchin stick:
Spine sticks from urchins can be quite painful and in the case of flowerpot or fire urchins or with people who have allergies fatal. Prompt treatment is important to reduce pain and swelling as well as the risk of infection.

If stuck by a flame or flowerpot urchin, if you have a allergy, or feel unwell or concerned seek appropriate treatment immediately from a medical professional.

If stuck by an urchin spine remove the spines as quickly as possible. You will not get all of the spine and this will hurt but it is important to remove them quickly to minimize pain. Do not dig out the spine as this can do more damage and cause higher risk than leaving it in and allowing it to work its way out. Next soak the affected area with vinegar followed by a hot water soak at the highest temperature you can stand followed again by a vinegar soak. This should minimize the pain and swelling/stiffness associated with an urchin stick.

And specifically for the Tuxedo:

Common Name: Tuxedo (blue or black)
Scientific Name: Mespillia Globulus
Max size: 2 Inches
Tank size: 15 gallon+ (with feeding)
Food: All kinds of algae
Reef safe: Yes if well fed
Notes:
Will pick up debris/shells/rocks/etc as camouflage. If it isn't then it may be sick or dying
May need supplemental feeding with nori if in 30+ gallon tank and will need supplemental feeding if in smaller tank


hmm well i guess you could say my long spine is very tough, he lost MANY spines and is doing very well and is very active, he has since grown back all of his spines


sorry didnt think the first one posted
 
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hmm well i guess you could say my long spine is very tough, he lost MANY spines and is doing very well and is very active, he has since grown back all of his spines


sorry didnt think the first one posted

Loosing spines means that it drops all/most of them all at once. Long spines and others will loose spines all the time due to them being broken of etc. Thats normal. Its when the urchin sheds them rapidly all at once where its a bad sign.
 
I'm always amused with the decorations my Tuxedos have chosen to carry around with them.

Last night this one grabbed the thermometer off the glass and is floating around the tank hanging from it now. What an adrenaline junky!

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