Vortech Tunze and Jebao

I remember an old member here on RC actually creating a dry side for the Vortech that was completely silent. He's long since been banned (I have no idea what happened there nor do I care. Just stating that so if someone asks me who, I don't remember his name.)

He wasn't banned (that I know of) but IIRC he was asked by EcoTech to not share it publicly. He is still a member here as far as i know and was even a ROTM.
 
It was also covered in their patent and if I recall correctly the issue with it is the torque limit at higher speeds/speed limitations making it not a workable solution. I'm pretty sure if they covered it in their patent they would have gone with it if it worked. A solid state dry side sure would be cool and more reliable.
 
He wasn't banned (that I know of) but IIRC he was asked by EcoTech to not share it publicly. He is still a member here as far as i know and was even a ROTM.

Man I would love to see how it was accomplished.. As long as you don't sell it or try to profit off it you can make your own stuff for personal use :p
 
Man I would love to see how it was accomplished.. As long as you don't sell it or try to profit off it you can make your own stuff for personal use :p

Not trying to start a p***ing contest... but this is the problem with our patent system. If I solve a problem, why should I be sued as long as I came up with it on my own. Build a better mousetrap and the world will "sue you for your innovation."
 
I just bought my first Jebao pumps as well, the 8000 and look forward to trying then out. At $100 each it's by far cheaper than the $350M1 which has already died on me within a year.


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I stuck an 8000 in the tank two weeks ago, got it on 40%, blows a lot of water and is very quiet on anything bar 80%+.
 
I just bought my first Jebao pumps as well, the 8000 and look forward to trying then out. At $100 each it's by far cheaper than the $350M1 which has already died on me within a year.

That sucks that your Vectra died so soon, but you weren't able to get a warranty replacement for your M1 from Ecotech?
 
That sucks that your Vectra died so soon, but you weren't able to get a warranty replacement for your M1 from Ecotech?



I was and the support was reasonable, not great. For the price though sure sucks being down on a Sunday night. Thank god I had an old wave line lying around. Still gonna sell the M1 though.


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It really all comes down to duty cycle with pretty much everything. The harder you drive something the shorter it will last pain and simple.

I have had a few wp40s and they never really held up past a year. They were installed on my mother in laws 240 gallon freshwater tank. They needed to be run upwards of 80% to get the flow she wanted for the livestock.

Jebao I've found are good/cheap pumps with a lower sustainable duty cycle.

Tunze/vortech are good/expensive pumps with a higher sustainable duty cycle.

People can't really say that either is better without knowing how they are run in the tank.

Think of it this way. If you have 2 exactly the same cars one is driven at 100mph and the other at 25mph. Which of the two will reach on of life first.

I don't run anything at or near 100% probably why I have 4 mp10wes on a 93 cube and thinking about getting a gyre. But all my pumps were bought used and are at least 5-7 years old. All rocking the original equipment. And I never clean them but once a year or so. My waveline DC 9000 is sitting at 45% Tank is dead silent. The only things that I can hear are my ATO filling my tank and when my vortechs are in NTM at 80% a couple times a day.

I would love to save money in this hobby but I don't like wasting it. And I'm going to buy what makes sense for the project. I wasted money on jebao and haven't yet on vortech. They might prove me wrong but it's already been this long.

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I just bought a pair of the latest generation Jebao SW pumps and noticed they changed the propeller so the shaft is now separate and goes through the propeller (similar to most return pump impeller mounting) instead of the shaft integrated into the propeller and spins on ceramic bushings. The problem with previous generation pump is the shaft gets stuck or frozen on the bushings so pump does not turn after turning off for an extended period of time.

The latest SW pump controller also comes with 0-10v port to manually control the pump.
 
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