Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

It's Microbacter 7 from Brightwell, It is a bacteria booster/additive that can be used along with other products they offer a full line of additives.
Bill
 
My water volume is about a hundred gallons and I was restarting my tank so I was doing about a teaspoon every other day. Now I'm in maintenance and will probably do about four drops.

Jason
 
Odd that you mention it, but I've gotten some birdsnest frags recently (Stylophora, Seriatopora, and Pocillopora) that just wouldn't adjust to my system, and subsequently melted. I just chalked it up to some systemic thang, but I dunno maybe it has something to do with the pellets.

DJ

I know this was mentioned quite a while ago, but I too had birdsnest die after running the pellets. Both a pink variety, and tubbs, slowly began to get a lack of polyp extension followed by stn. I do not know if this is only limited to birdsnest as I have lost all of my sps within the past few months. I am not blaming my loss solely on the pellets because I was already having poor polyp extension prior to running the pellets.
 
I know this was mentioned quite a while ago, but I too had birdsnest die after running the pellets. Both a pink variety, and tubbs, slowly began to get a lack of polyp extension followed by stn. I do not know if this is only limited to birdsnest as I have lost all of my sps within the past few months. I am not blaming my loss solely on the pellets because I was already having poor polyp extension prior to running the pellets.

Sorry to hear about your sps's.
I have not been able to keep any birdsnest for a few months now either. Mine stn'd way before adding the pellets. I did buy a small frag of the tubbs and it has not rtn'd but it doesn't look great. All my other monti's, pocillopora's, millie's and acro's are doing great.

What happened to your tank?
 
Sorry to hear about your sps's.
I have not been able to keep any birdsnest for a few months now either. Mine stn'd way before adding the pellets. I did buy a small frag of the tubbs and it has not rtn'd but it doesn't look great. All my other monti's, pocillopora's, millie's and acro's are doing great.

What happened to your tank?

All of my sps began to stn, I think it was due to all the changes ive put the tank through the past few months. Im now sps free, and intend to keep it that way for a month or so in case the culprit was some kind of pest. I also plan on keeping my alk around 8 dkh as opposed to 10, as ive heard higher alk can have detrimental effects on a tank when using pellets.
 
Rumors

Rumors

All of my sps began to stn, I think it was due to all the changes ive put the tank through the past few months. Im now sps free, and intend to keep it that way for a month or so in case the culprit was some kind of pest. I also plan on keeping my alk around 8 dkh as opposed to 10, as ive heard higher alk can have detrimental effects on a tank when using pellets.

I have been running Eco-Bak as long as It's been out and my KH has been around 10DKH for most of the time I have used it. And I see no adverse effect from it being at any level unless it is excessively high IME.
It is very easy to start rumors that are not true in all cases as stated above I see no reason to fiddle with the KH just because you are using pellets JMO
Bill:wave:
 
All of my sps began to stn, I think it was due to all the changes ive put the tank through the past few months. Im now sps free, and intend to keep it that way for a month or so in case the culprit was some kind of pest. I also plan on keeping my alk around 8 dkh as opposed to 10, as ive heard higher alk can have detrimental effects on a tank when using pellets.


I can say from my experience running half liter on my 120 gallon reef that when my alk got to 11.2 dkh that my Duncan wouldn't open, my Blastamossa lost a polyp and one of my Acros wasn't extending his polyps. I was running my calcium reactor hard thinking more is better.

When I took my calcium reactor off line and allowed the dkh to go to eight everything is recovering nicely and looks better. I am now running my reactor more conservatively.:sleep:

Myself personally I will never run my system with a high dkh and run bio pellets. I feel we really don't know the full affects of running a ultra low nutrient system. Better to try to keep everything close to Seawater when running ULNS.

Jason
 
11.2 High

11.2 High

I can say from my experience running half liter on my 120 gallon reef that when my alk got to 11.2 dkh that my Duncan wouldn't open, my Blastamossa lost a polyp and one of my Acros wasn't extending his polyps. I was running my calcium reactor hard thinking more is better.

When I took my calcium reactor off line and allowed the dkh to go to eight everything is recovering nicely and looks better. I am now running my reactor more conservatively.:sleep:

Myself personally I will never run my system with a high dkh and run bio pellets. I feel we really don't know the full affects of running a ultra low nutrient system. Better to try to keep everything close to Seawater when running ULNS.

Jason

With the margin of error that IMO is high, But you won't get any argument from me as far as where you want to run the KH. Just not sure the Pellets along with high KH are the cause of any problem that high KH alone will cause by itself.
Bill:hmm6:
 
Salty, How about an update. My system is similar to yours

Marty


OK, I added my other 500mL of pellets. I tested my water and these are my parameters:
SG - 1.025
Nitrates - 80+ API
50 - Salifert (new)
Phospahtes - 0.5
MG - 1170
CA - 480
dKH - 13.4

I had a slight bloom this first week with the first 500mL. I will expect a slight bloom this week with the second 500mL. Other than that the few corals I have seem to be fine and the fish are fine. Water does seem to a bit clearer but that is just my preception - no proof :spin3:
 
Well guys it now has been 4 1/2 months since I added 1 liter of EB to my system. System is now 1 year 4 months old.
Phos are at 0 - salifert test kit
Nitrates are between 0.5 to 0.8 - salifert test kit
Things are REALLY stable with all the other water parameters.
No hair algae or red/green slime algae!
Growth has been very good with my sps's, even the newer pieces. Color is OUTSTANDING!
My sps's that were on the verge of complete extinction are coming back. Even Mike's Paletta's blue monti is coming back from with in the rock it died on!
One other thing I have been doing as well is feeding the tank once a week with Dr. G's decapsulated brine shrimp eggs, oyster magnifique, phytoplankton enriched brine shrimp, copepods,rotifers, and Brightwell's zooplanktos-s, microvore.
I still clean glass about twice a week though.
Skimmer is pulling out a LOT of gunk for sure.
EXTREMELY happy right now with my tank!!!
I'm in the poor house after holidays, but it feels good not adding anything new and seeing what I have grow and prosper!
 
Man I keep reading about all the wonderful results people are having with this product. I am happy for them I can tell you that I have been using the pellets from three months now and have noticed no reduction in Nitrates at all. In fact the pellets look exactly the same as they did when I put them into my system. I am using roughly 1500ML in one of the new nexreef reactors, flow is prefect out put from the reactor goes directly into my Bubble King 250 SM.

I have roughly 350 gallons of water NO3 was 8 to 10 PPM tested on a Lamott low range test kit when I started. Today the NO3 test 10 to 12 PPM on the same test kit. I should also add there has only been negitive effect and that was on my wallet my system remains unfazed by the pellets.

Any suggestions before I pull these pellets off line. Do not suggest bacteria supplementation as a fix. Supposedly the product does not require bacteria supplementation. Thanks..
 
I might drop back on the Rowaphos a bit to see what happens. I'd be careful, though. The phosphate level might be high enough to cause problems as is. What model of the Hanna are you using?
 
Salty, How about an update. My system is similar to yours

Marty

I didn't check my numbers this weekend, but I did last week. They were about the same. My skimmer is really putting out the stuff and I really thought a week ago I might get some better numbers, but not really. The "trates" were still 80+ API and 50 on the Salifert. But it's only been about 5+weeks now. So I will give it some more time. I'm beginning to think about what to do if this doesn't work. AZNO3? Denitrifier? I don't know, but I have to get these "trates" down to normal range. I tell you what I don't understand. My anemone is doing great - he has split four times in the last year. The last time just a few weeks ago. I really would think the high "trates" would affect him? ----- How's your system been?

SaltyNovice
 
Give it more time IMO as at three months i was going to give up also but hang in there and they will kick in sooner or later. I use a little MB7 to help with Bacteria, With no proof of them working or not but I have 0.036 Average Phosphate Per Hanna PPB Meter
Bill
 
ecobak in precision marine reactor

ecobak in precision marine reactor

this cone came out of a 6 volt flashlight. i reamed the hole in middle with a dremel so it slides onto the 1/2" pvc pipe. then drilled a bunch of holes in a 1/2" pvc endcap and glued a small piece of pipe to the bottom of endcap, so it fits in the cutout in the bottom of reactor. this setup works much better then just replacing the stock sponge with plastic canvas at the bottom. the pellets tumble good with a lot less flow. i do have a video on youtube username johndarkkstar. i dont remember how to drag a link (duh) to it.
 

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