Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

[poolkeeper1]

I have had seven Anthia's and seven Hi-Fin Cardinals along with a Sail-fin Tang Small an Angel Cherub and a total of around 30 fish in a 105gal and I'm feeding 5X a Day with the Anthia's and the EB has kept, Along with an ATB skimmer at 12 PPB of Phosphate and I don't even test for Nitrate anymore. So there's your answer in a nutshell about feeding heavy. I feed a combination of frozen Cyclopes and Roggers reef food and Sm Pellet food along with a variety of store bought frozen food plus my own homemade food, And I have great color and growth like this and my Fish are Phat and happy...
Bill

 

[bagz727]

I have had seven Anthia's and seven Hi-Fin Cardinals along with a Sail-fin Tang Small an Angel Cherub and a total of around 30 fish in a 105gal and I'm feeding 5X a Day with the Anthia's and the EB has kept, Along with an ATB skimmer at 12 PPB of Phosphate and I don't even test for Nitrate anymore. So there's your answer in a nutshell about feeding heavy. I feed a combination of frozen Cyclopes and Roggers reef food and Sm Pellet food along with a variety of store bought frozen food plus my own homemade food, And I have great color and growth like this and my Fish are Phat and happy...
Bill

may i know how many ml of pellets are you using? thanks

 

[poolkeeper1]

Total amount

Total amount

may i know how many ml of pellets are you using? thanks

I have alway's thought that there would be no tank that needed the same amount of Eco-Bak, That it would depend on your Bioload along with your levels of Nitrate and Phosphate. That being said I have 105gal tank and 65gal sump and use 1,000ml of Eco-Bak but I also have a high quality skimmer that is IMO part of the equation of success. I started with 500ml then 750ml and at 1,000 it started to work very well in my case and that's when i stopped all GFO use and let the Pellets do their thing, Patience is Key!
Bill:beer:

 

[bagz727]

I have alway's thought that there would be no tank that needed the same amount of Eco-Bak, That it would depend on your Bioload along with your levels of Nitrate and Phosphate. That being said I have 105gal tank and 65gal sump and use 1,000ml of Eco-Bak but I also have a high quality skimmer that is IMO part of the equation of success. I started with 500ml then 750ml and at 1,000 it started to work very well in my case and that's when i stopped all GFO use and let the Pellets do their thing, Patience is Key!
Bill:beer:

i have a 135g display & 45g sump w/ 17 fishes & a super reef octopus 2000sss. i use 750ml wm pellets, might try 1000ml & see what happens, but as of now i have 0 nitrates but po4 is at 0.08. should i just use gfo? thanks

 

[poolkeeper1]

i have a 135g display & 45g sump w/ 17 fishes & a super reef octopus 2000sss. i use 750ml wm pellets, might try 1000ml & see what happens, but as of now i have 0 nitrates but po4 is at 0.08. should i just use gfo? thanks

If it were me I would just add more Eco-Bak, But you must make that decision for yourself. Have you had that reading steady for a long period of time or is it still getting lower over time? And If it is just be Patience it may still go lower. But in reality you do not IMO want absolute 0 Phosphate!
Bill:idea:

 

[Mikey122687]

I have a 80G tank with a 20G sump, only use like 3/4 of the 500ML Ecobak, works fine.

 

[gary faulkner]

Bill, do you mean .12 or 1.2 or what exactly? 12 PPB of Phosphate

Thanks

 

[bagz727]

If it were me I would just add more Eco-Bak, But you must make that decision for yourself. Have you had that reading steady for a long period of time or is it still getting lower over time? And If it is just be Patience it may still go lower. But in reality you do not IMO want absolute 0 Phosphate!
Bill:idea:

thanks, ill keep that in mind!

 

[drummereef]

Small update... NO3 and PO4 remain undetectable with my Salifert/Hanna. Running 1L ecoBAK on a net 220g system. I'm getting some green hair algae on my < 1" sand bed. Any ideas as to why there would be this algae growth but yet the nutrients are testing so low?

Trying to run as close to ULNS as possible...
Alk 8.3
Ca 440 (slighlty high for ulns)
Mag 1290 (slightly high for ulns)
PO4 0.00
NO3 Undetectable

 

[poolkeeper1]

Tranlation

Tranlation

Bill, do you mean .12 or 1.2 or what exactly? 12 PPB of Phosphate

Thanks

From PPB to PPM is roughly 3x the number you get from the phosphorus meter. So 12x 3= 36 but you must add the 0.036 PPM is the conversion done the simple way. There is a formula but i can not recall the exact numbers. 1.033 x your results then divide by 1,000 or something like that. I'm sure someone will chime in on this and correct me!
Bill:wave:

 

[poolkeeper1]

Salifert Test

Salifert Test

Small update... NO3 and PO4 remain undetectable with my Salifert/Hanna. Running 1L ecoBAK on a net 220g system. I'm getting some green hair algae on my < 1" sand bed. Any ideas as to why there would be this algae growth but yet the nutrients are testing so low?

Trying to run as close to ULNS as possible...
Alk 8.3
Ca 440 (slighlty high for ulns)
Mag 1290 (slightly high for ulns)
PO4 0.00
NO3 Undetectable

I would not trust the results your getting from the Salifert test kits as several of us have checked their test against the Hanna Checkers and Elos and the Salifert was off every time by different kits by the same amount of 1 point different, It was reading higher than it actually was. Too much to ignore when several different kits all read off by the same amount?
Bill:thumbdown

 

[drummereef]

I would not trust the results your getting from the Salifert test kits as several of us have checked their test against the Hanna Checkers and Elos and the Salifert was off every time by different kits by the same amount of 1 point different, It was reading higher than it actually was. Too much to ignore when several different kits all read off by the same amount?
Bill:thumbdown

So I should pick up an Elos NO3 kit? The Hanna Checker is the Phosphate Photometer. I heard Hanna was having problems with their reagents on the Alkalinity Checkers, possibly the NO3 Checkers. Haven't heard if the new reagents have shipped yet.

 

[poolkeeper1]

Just compare

Just compare

So I should pick up an Elos NO3 kit? The Hanna Checker is the Phosphate Photometer. I heard Hanna was having problems with their reagents on the Alkalinity Checkers, possibly the NO3 Checkers. Haven't heard if the new reagents have shipped yet.

Just compare your results with a couple of other tests like we did and see if you find the same results. The Salifert is the ones that come with the new tip that is pink not clear, It takes up a different amount of reagent when you do the test. I was told it is due to the batch of the reagent being different, But I just don't think all the others are wrong and Salifert correct JMHO
Bill:thumbsup:

 

[drummereef]

Just compare your results with a couple of other tests like we did and see if you find the same results. The Salifert is the ones that come with the new tip that is pink not clear, It takes up a different amount of reagent when you do the test. I was told it is due to the batch of the reagent being different, But I just don't think all the others are wrong and Salifert correct JMHO
Bill:thumbsup:

I misspoke Bill. My NO3 test is an API, not Salifert. . The test always comes out clear yellow which is 00 on the color chart.

 

[josh_tn]

From PPB to PPM is roughly 3x the number you get from the phosphorus meter. So 12x 3= 36 but you must add the 0.036 PPM is the conversion done the simple way. There is a formula but i can not recall the exact numbers. 1.033 x your results then divide by 1,000 or something like that. I'm sure someone will chime in on this and correct me!
Bill:wave:

ppb X 3.066 then divide by 1000

 

[poolkeeper1]

Stand Corrected

Stand Corrected

ppb X 3.066 then divide by 1000

Thank you Sir, See you Sunday
Bill

 

[solitude127]

Have any of you noticed if the volume of you pellets changed? From talking with Jon, he mentioned that the bacteria was to "consume" the pellets therefore needing to repleninsh the pellets

 

[TheFishMan65]

They do but the estimate is they will last for 6 months. Of course it also depends on loads.

 

[falconut]

I've posted throughout this thread, so why not provide an update. Running 500ml of EcoBAK since June 2010. Stopped using GFO back in December 2010. At that time my PO4 was testing 0.00 using a Hanna Checker. Now over two months later with just the pellets, PO4 is still testing 0.00 and there hasn't been any algae. Plus my corals and fish look extremely healthy. To me, this product works great at maintaining low levels.

 

[drummereef]

I've posted throughout this thread, so why not provide an update. Running 500ml of EcoBAK since June 2010. Stopped using GFO back in December 2010. At that time my PO4 was testing 0.00 using a Hanna Checker. Now over two months later with just the pellets, PO4 is still testing 0.00 and there hasn't been any algae. Plus my corals and fish look extremely healthy. To me, this product works great at maintaining low levels.

Great news falconut! What size system are you running the ecoBAK on?