Way to Stop Global Warming..

[Kentanner11]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13001509#post13001509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Che


I think that if we can dam up rivers to produce hydroelectric power, we
can drop a couple of bioblocks in the ocean to see if it has a net positive effect.

Didnt the entire caulerpa incident involve just a few pieces? That ended very, very badly.

I think everyone has made very great points, regardless of their view(s)!!!

:rollface:

 

[kirstenk]

So we can dump tons and tons of sewage and hazardous waste into the ocean everyday, but we can't dump something that we think might be helpful to the environment into the ocean?


OK....so that made some sence so I went back to their website to read some more. I find out they have yet to determine what this dumping might do to the ocean, especially at the dump site. They need to figure that out and are asking for help in that area.

Then I read where they will need to dump:

3,330,000 TONS

6,660,000,000 POUNDS

I don't think so.

This project also looks cost prohibitive.

Better to spend the $$$ reducing and not trying to alter the deep blue.

 

[kirstenk]

As I understand it lime is Calcium Oxide (CaO) and alkaline. Ca and oxygen. It doesn't strike me as something that I would be too concerned about adding to our oceans.


Try taking those numbers I posted, caculating them down and dumping it into your tank. LMK how that goes.

 

[Che]

How many gallons are in the oceans?

How many gallons of water are there in the oceans?
In: Earth Sciences

Answer
The United States Geologic Survey (USGS) estimates there to be 326,000,000 cubic miles of water on the planet. A cubic mile can hold a little more than 1.1 X 1012 gallons.

The USGS also estimates that 96.5% of that water is in the planets oceans.

96.5%
X (1,100,000,000,000 gallons per cubic mile)
X (326,000,000 cubic miles)
===============================
= 346,049,000,000,000,000,000 gallons.


I think that the oceans can bear it. As to whether it is cost effective, that remains to be seen, but i think that some of these big oil companies that have been raking in the profits might be able to spare a buck or two.

 

[30reef]

I am going to go with my original thoughts on this, bad idea. I don't think that much could be distributed quickly enough to do anything but cake up and fall to the bottom. The oceans cover millions of square miles, and even a fleet of container ships wouldn't make a dent.

 

[kirstenk]

346,049,000,000,000,000,000 gallons.

That's a lot of water.

I goofed on my calculations.

3,330,000,000,000 tons are needed.

These numbers boggle my mind. I still cannot see the justification of trying to alter the ocean to counter other problems when those very problems can be addressed in a way that is more in line with nature/the planet.

 

[KarlBob]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13001509#post13001509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Che
So we can dump tons and tons of sewage and hazardous waste into the ocean everyday, but we can't dump something that we think might be helpful to the environment into the ocean?

Che

What worries me more than sewage is the fertilizer that comes from rivers like the Mississippi. The "Dead Zone" in the Gulf of Mexico is a pretty scary thing.

 

[30reef]

No amount of science is going to fix the climate until developing countries begin to be responsible for their greenhouse emmisions. I have read that China, for instance, burns coal for 90% of it's energy needs, with no controls in place to purify the emmisions before being spewed into the atmosphere. Don't even get me started on the deforestation in the Amazon basin.

 

[Che]

What I was implying was that we don't have to dump all of the lime at one time. We know how the chemistry works. (I don't think that the caulerpa analogy is relevant as it is a live plant that is way different than a couple of elemental chemicals). In the name of the environment and trying to enhance our current air quality you could try on a very small scale in an area where the animal life and chemistry are not as sensitive as say a reef. By god we have exploded nukes in our oceans to test them; I don't see how calcium and oxgen compare to radioactive material.

Anyhow, I don't see how we (as the inhabitors of the globe) can continue with exponential growth and not try fairly benign experiments that have the potential to significantly improve our environments air quality.

Just really posting to get on Kirstin's bad side. :lol2:

 

[Kentanner11]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13016386#post13016386 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Che
In the name of the environment and trying to enhance our current air quality you could try on a very small scale in an area where the animal life and chemistry are not as sensitive as say a reef.

Or better yet- actually use the biosphere facility for something lol! I'm going in- who wants to help? Did I mention the million gal. ocean??? lol -yea its a dream of mine to be a bionaut- just have to talk them into it lol!

 

[Fliger]

This is a tangent kind of - but for me, one of the best ways I knew I could lessen my impact in my time on the planet was to adopt my children. Instead of adding people (which will be a worldwide crisis when there are 12M people on the planet in our lifetime) - think about giving a child a chance that might not otherwise have one. There are so many other benefits, it raises the awareness of compassion to those around you, you meet amazing people - and you might end up with the two most beautiful boyz in the world, oh wait ... I already have them. I never had the urge to spread my genes, and that's probably a good thing. :lol:

Seriously though, this world is facing a SERIOUS population problem and can not come close to sustaining the human population - let alone take care of the rest of nature if we continue on the population trends we're on. We're going to hit a critical mass soon enough, and no politician will pay any attention to the environment.

 

[Che]

So Fliger, you don't have the desire to make a little beer drinking miniature of yourself?

Che

 

[random_ryan]

I have been doing alot of reasearch on going green. and taking action. such as with my truck I am converting it to being a type of hybred. it will run off fuel and water. I am even looking at a way to make my auto run off compressed air. pretty kool huh. the other thing I am doing is using news paper for installation. I recycle as much as I can and have instilled that into my children. my kids use recycled paper for school. We use cloth diapears on my nefew. I am also looking into solar energy. it really doesn't take much to change our habits. also reuse the plastic bags that your bring home from the stores. I try to buy all my soda in cans. becouse I can recycle them. I bought a truck recently for parts. when I am done I am going to chop it up take it to my local recycler and recycle it, not to mention I make a little bit of cash doing it. plus it just feels going to do something that helps our enviorment. Not that it makes a huge difference. But Atleast I am tring. fligger If I could adopt I would but my house is full. lol. 2 step daughters, my son, my niece and nefew, and my twins on the weekend. I think if we all do just a few changes we can help out .

 

[Che's DW]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13022343#post13022343 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by random_ryan
it really doesn't take much to change our habits. also reuse the plastic bags that your bring home from the stores.

Better yet, buy a stash of reusable bags for all your shopping, so that you don't have to bring home all those plastic or paper bags. Every store around is now carrying them for about a buck a piece. There's really no good excuse not to use them.

 

[vanmle]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13022459#post13022459 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Che's DW
Better yet, buy a stash of reusable bags for all your shopping, so that you don't have to bring home all those plastic or paper bags. Every store around is now carrying them for about a buck a piece. There's really no good excuse not to use them.

I think this is a good idea. However, for me I need like 10-15 bags every time I shop.

 

[Che]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13029120#post13029120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vanmle
I think this is a good idea. However, for me I need like 10-15 bags every time I shop.

I have about 20 of them in the back of my car at all times.

 

[Che's DW]

^^ Oops, me again posting as Che.