What are the most reef-safe urchins?

LouisianaReefer

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What are the most reef-safe urchins? I guess none for a hundred percent safe in the first place. I hear that pencil urchins can damaged corals and even eat some corals such as xenia. Is it safe to have a small pin cushion urchin? I saw an online vendor that sells very small ones which could be less risky for damaging corals I guess. I heard and that some urchins can damage LPS corals especially when eating algae beside them. I understand they can be like bulldozers. Bulldozers with sharp spines doesn't sound good for my LPS corals with delicate tissue.
 
I have a tuxedo urchin and a Halloween urchin. Both are small and neither has caused any damage at least not yet.
 
SImple short-spine pincushion is a pretty good citizen, stays pretty small, tuxedo even more so.
 
It really depends on what you're refering to when you say, "reef safe"

- Will it knock my (unsecured) rock over? (Any pincushion type urchin.. specifically, pincushion, tuxedo, halloween, and also pencil urchins.)
- Will it scratch the acrylic? (Yes to all urchins, pencils ESPECIALLY)
- Will it eat my coraline? (Debatable with all species, but particularly pencil is well known as a coraline eater)
- Will it eat my coral frags? (None necessarly that are commonly sold)
- Will it pick up and move frags? (All I listed for pushing rocks over, pencil does not pick up materials.)
- Will it eat fish? (All harmless, pencil may atempt to nab a fish but is generally unsuccessful.)

Rock boring urchins, or florida reef urchins seem to be the most passive, nontoxic, medium sized, less bulky species of urchin for home aquarium. They aren't big enough to tumble rock, and their spines will break first. They do not move corals to wear or eat them. (Although I can't promise coraline, that I honestly do not know, but I don't notice mine eating anything and he tripled in the past month). However like others, careful with acrylic. Tuxedos are also really good, just be careful with lose frags. They don't get too big to tumble rock as easily. Long spine urchins are in the same boat as florida reef, only with the additional cons of being venomous and getting much larger.
 
No one has mentioned the long spined urchin. Liveaquaria lists it as peaceful and reef safe. I bought one a couple of weeks ago and so far I love him. Elegant looking and interesting to watch. But am I in for trouble?
 
i have a tuxedo and 2 pincushion urchins in my 75g reef. they keep the rocks and glass clean and the only problems i've ever had is that the pincushions will pick up a lot of stuff to decorate themselves with. i have one that will even carry an entire frag around.
 
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- Will it eat my coral frags? (None necessarly that are commonly sold)
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I am willing to count the cost regarding the aggravation of an urchin moving things around my tank. I was concerned about having an urchin pierce my LPS corals while going for algae besides them. I understand that this is not likely with a tuxedo urchin. I plan to order one soon. I read that the pencil ones eat xenia. What are the less "common" corals that urchins eat? Would a tuxedo urchin eat any coral whatsoever?
 
No one has mentioned the long spined urchin. Liveaquaria lists it as peaceful and reef safe. I bought one a couple of weeks ago and so far I love him. Elegant looking and interesting to watch. But am I in for trouble?


They just get really large. Mine is in a 40 and likely will have to be rehomed soon just due to his size. He always attracts a lot of comments from non-reef keepers. He lives with a tuxedo as well. No problems eating corals from either, but both are bulldozers. The tuxedo can pick up small frags, shells and bits of rock to wear. Small things that aren't secured WILL get moved.

IMO, the bit about long spine urchins being venomous is likely overstated. I've been stuck, and it's just a puncture wound. I think what happens is that wound often gets infected, and people assume venom. The longspine will actively point it's spines at my hand to defend itself. I just have to be careful scrubbing algae and working around him.
 
Ain't that, the venom has been detected in the spines, however the reaction from the venom varies from indivigual, to indivigual. Could feel no side effect, could feel like a bee sting, or could be a really bad allergy reaction requiring treatment. The spines also have been reported being snapped off and breaking inside the wound due to their fraility while removing them, which you can imagine how bad that would be. Chance of infection is just an additional side effect that comes with pretty much anything you cut yourself on.

They're just one of those things you have to be careful around. The possibilities are there, but if you use caution then you should be fine.

@LouisianaReefer, I'm not particularly certain if Pencil eats xenia, however I think I do recall hearing something like that before.

Piercing a coral on the other hand isn't an issue as the tissue of a coral will simply shrink on contact and if there are any pinhole sized punctures in it, it'll recover overnight. Wouldn't be too different from say, a shrimp or crab walking on it.
 
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I have been doing my due diligence research on urchins, since I am looking to buy my first one soon. I have narrowed it down to the tuxedo and collector urchin ( Tripneustes gratilla...aka Halloween Urchin). I found this info. a bit interesting....

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6729846

While we are talking about a concentration injection for the incident, it makes me a bit curious as to if there is any affect on this in a reef aquarium, esp. if you are running GAC. While I would say probably not, it's nonetheless just some information. Take this info. with a grain of salt, esp. that I am a not knowledgeable in urchins. Just trying to help out.

Out of the two species from what I have read, it appears that though the collector species grazes all day long, whereas the tuxedo, stays more hidden during the day, and grazes more when the lights are out. I am going to buy one of each, stick them in my QT, and monitor the behavior of both. The one I like better will get the upgrade to my DT, and the other will stay in my permanent QT.
 
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@LouisianaReefer, I'm not particularly certain if Pencil eats xenia, however I think I do recall hearing something like that before.

Piercing a coral on the other hand isn't an issue as the tissue of a coral will simply shrink on contact and if there are any pinhole sized punctures in it, it'll recover overnight. Wouldn't be too different from say, a shrimp or crab walking on it.

This is helpful, amazing information. Corals are extraordinary creatures!

Good news! I just purchase a tuxedo urchin this week. It is doing a great job at eating all sorts of algae in my tank. I should have picked him up a year ago.
 
I have a collector that came with my shipment from TB Saltwater. He has picked up a very small colony of polyps that he wears as a hat and then proceeds to graze all the time. He doesn't damage the polyps and it is kind of cool to watch.

Also, to my surprise about a month after I got my rock, I realized that my rock must of been near a breeding ground as 6 baby deep purple urchins began to grow. They leave my coral alone and just graze on algae all day long. However, I don't think I want 7 sea urchins in my 90 gallon tank. I think I will donate them to my lfs.
 
Tuxedos are definitely my favorite urchins. They're little dudes, and aside from shoving small rocks and picking stuff up, they shouldn't damage anything. Also, they come in multiple nice colors, including the Halloween variant.

@jdewolftx, do you have pictures? Depending on the species, other hobbyists might be willing to buy them.
 
I have a collector that came with my shipment from TB Saltwater. He has picked up a very small colony of polyps that he wears as a hat and then proceeds to graze all the time. He doesn't damage the polyps and it is kind of cool to watch.

Also, to my surprise about a month after I got my rock, I realized that my rock must of been near a breeding ground as 6 baby deep purple urchins began to grow. They leave my coral alone and just graze on algae all day long. However, I don't think I want 7 sea urchins in my 90 gallon tank. I think I will donate them to my lfs.

If I pay for shipping and include an additional $10 for your trouble, can I get 3 of the babies from you?
 
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Sea Urchins

Scientific Information:

Phylum: Echinodermata
Class: Echinoidea
Order: Multiple. See below

Common Names:
Pin Cushion, Tuxedo, Long Spine(v), Short Spine, Pencil(sn), Flower(vv), Fire(vv), Sand Dollar(sn)

v = venomous
vv = very venomous
sn = special needs

Origin:
Pin Cushion - Caribbean
Tuxedo - Indo-Pacific
Long Spine - Indo-Pacific
Short Spine - Indo-Pacific
Pencil - Indo-Pacific

Introduction:
This article is divided into four sections. General Information, Reef Safe Urchins, Special Needs Urchins, and Urchins to avoid. General Information contains general notes on husbandry while the other sections deal with specific species broken out by type of urchin and contains specific details on tank size, diet requirements, special needs, and the like.

General Information:
There are about eight different kinds of urchin, including the sand dollar, sold in the trade. Their habitats range from the Atlantic to the Indo-Pacific and Caribbean. Most urchins are reef safe with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous and will eat corals as well as fish and the very pretty but very venomous flower and fire urchins.

Urchins tend to be some of the more unusual and potentially entertaining additions to a cleanup crew and actually cut down substantially on the required number and diversity of said crew. In general one urchin can handle the job of several glass cleaning snails and several rock cleaning snails and hermits. They are no harder than other invertebrates, like crabs and hermits, to keep and do a good job relative to their size of keeping control of algae. While urchins tend to be nocturnal, many will come out during daylight hours.

The best Urchin for Nano tanks are the Tuxedo's as they remain relatively small while still providing entertainment and high cleaning to relative size value. Watching them work is interesting especially when they are on the glass and their mouth can be seen in operation. They will eat all kinds of algae including diatoms, green hair, etc and there is anecdotal evidence of them eating cyno as well.

There are three downsides to having an urchin in the tank. If the urchin selected is a Pinchushion or Tuxedo and there are small loose bits of rock, small bits of coral or frags, or hermits and snails in the tank the Urchin may take them for a free ride around the tank on its back. The reason for this is that this subspecies uses shells and loose strata as tactile and visual camouflage from their natural predators. Urchins are also very strong for their size and can inadvertently topple corals and/or rocks as they move about the tank. The caution used when putting a turbo snail into a tank would be the same for an urchin. Make sure the rocks and corals are stable and not easy to move. Finally, urchins eat all kinds of algae including coraline.

Predators:
Urchins are not recommended in a tank that contains any:

starfish
triggers
some types of larger wrasse
puffers
anglers
squirrel fish
snappers
sharks
rays
porkfish
parrot fish
harlequins

as urchins are a natural prey of these animals.

Diet:
Most Urchins are either herbivores or omnivores with the notable exception of the Pencil Urchin which is carnivorous. Urchins will eat all forms of micro-algae from all surfaces including rock work, glass, and substrate.

If algae is not prolific in the tank it is best to supplementally feed urchins with some form of sea weed such as Nori. A 2"x2" sheet about once every week or so should be sufficient.

Feeding can be handled in one of two ways. First, hang it on the glass or rock where they will find it. Second, hand feed them. If hand feeding the urchin will do something called an "urchin kiss" where their spines will gently grasp the tip of your finger as their sensory tentacles explore if you are worth eating. Press the sea weed gently on the spine or place it in the urchin's path and allow it to roll up on it.

Acclimation Process:
Gradual. If the delta between the salinity level they are used to and your tank is too high they can get salinity shock. An example acclimation method would be to place the urchin in a bucket or container with the water it came with, a heater, and a very small power head. Over a 30 to 40 minute period remove 4 oz of old water and replace it with 4 oz of water from your tank repeating every 7-10 minutes for about 30-40 minutes. (Note this assumes you have more than 12 oz of original water and that the original water is not fouled or contaminated. Drip method would be best if you do not have at least 12 oz of original water)

Things to watch out for:
If an urchin's spines fall off they are most likely dying and there isn't much that can be done to save them. While it is possible to attempt rehabilitation via a hospital tank coupled with offering allot of food like nori usually by the time the spines are falling off it is too late and humane euthanization such as via freezing is more appropriate. It is important to remove the urchin from the tank as soon as spine loss is observed as delay could cause the urchin to expire in a location difficult to access or see which would cause a spike in the tank.

As with all invertebrates copper based medications are fatal to urchins.

Urchins are also sensitive to rapid shifts in salinity and can get salinity shock which can be fatal.

Urchins do not tolerate high nitrates. If there are high nitrates in the tank an urchin will shed its spines.

Wound treatment from an urchin stick:
Spine sticks from urchins can be quite painful and in the case of flowerpot or fire urchins or with people who have allergies fatal. Prompt treatment is important to reduce pain and swelling as well as the risk of infection.

If stuck by a flame or flowerpot urchin, if you have a allergy, or feel unwell or concerned seek appropriate treatment immediately from a medical professional.

If stuck by an urchin spine remove the spines as quickly as possible. You will not get all of the spine and this will hurt but it is important to remove them quickly to minimize pain. Do not dig out the spine as this can do more damage and cause higher risk than leaving it in and allowing it to work its way out. Next soak the affected area with vinegar followed by a hot water soak at the highest temperature you can stand followed again by a vinegar soak. This should minimize the pain and swelling/stiffness associated with an urchin stick.

And specifically for the Tuxedo:

Common Name: Tuxedo (blue or black)
Scientific Name: Mespillia Globulus
Max size: 2 Inches
Tank size: 15 gallon+ (with feeding)
Food: All kinds of algae
Reef safe: Yes if well fed
Notes:
Will pick up debris/shells/rocks/etc as camouflage. If it isn't then it may be sick or dying
May need supplemental feeding with nori if in 30+ gallon tank and will need supplemental feeding if in smaller tank
 
I had 3 hitchhiker black spine urchin. Cant say if it were just 1 of them but I had SPS in the tank and at least one of them munched down 3 SPS sticks skeleton and all in about 2 days.
 
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