Sorry Murph72, I didn't see your post here until just now. We certainly knew about the Reefnest date and tried to work around it, but we moved the NCPARS swap to early November because we simply couldn't find a venue in October that worked this year. We are going to try to move around the state a bit more, and so we are going SE to Reading this swap, and no places were available that we could find that were affordable. We are moving locations partly to try to attract new faces from different regions (this time, Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc.) and get some new frags into circulation instead of the same ones we've all traded already at past swaps. I am sure taht although some people in the NW will only go to Williamsport, and some in the SE will only go to Reading, they are 2 weeks apart and so some people will definitely stop in at both. Next spring, with Mo's posting May 12 as a tentative date, NCPARS will be shooting at late March or early April for a date. And we're going to try to get some folks looking for a location early enough that we won't run into a scheduling problem the way we did this time.