What's this clownfish type?

Ambiturner006

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Hello all. I went to a local shop and they were holding a pair of clownfish for a client. They couldn't tell me any specifics, but I loved the look of them and wanted to search for a pair for myself. Could you brilliant minds confirm what type of clownfish I'm looking at here? Closest pictures I could find on google were just Fancy Ocellaris.

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If I were to guess, I'd say some sort of percula/ocellaris hybrid. Originally, I thought they might be photons, but they don't have the brown tinge of typical juvenile photons. I know there is another hybrid coming out of Bali, but I forget the name. If I remember, I'll definitely post the name.

Some may tell you that these are Onyx, but based on how the black is developing, I don't think they are. Most juvenile Onyx clowns develop their black from front to back, not outside-in as these are (especially on the tail).
 
If I were to guess, I'd say some sort of percula/ocellaris hybrid. Originally, I thought they might be photons, but they don't have the brown tinge of typical juvenile photons. I know there is another hybrid coming out of Bali, but I forget the name. If I remember, I'll definitely post the name.

Some may tell you that these are Onyx, but based on how the black is developing, I don't think they are. Most juvenile Onyx clowns develop their black from front to back, not outside-in as these are (especially on the tail).

So you think this color might not stay this way? My wife really loved this color in particular, so we wanted some that would be like this permanently. But if this is just in transition of some kind, that might explain why it was so hard to ID these guys based on photos online.
 
It's hard to predict what the "final" color will be as these appear to be tank-raised juveniles. Have your wife take a look at photos of Photons, Onyx, and standard perculas and she which she likes the best.
 
I have a pair of wild caught Solomon Islands percula these look close to.
But the ones in your picture, especially the smaller one, seem to have some ocellaris in them.
The issue with percula is that they are highly variable in their coloration. And they can change dramatically under certain conditions. I have one pair that lost a lot of its black, while another turned almost completely black. And a third pretty much stayed the way I bought them.
This is in part anemone species related, but there are also factors beyond that.

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My first thought was the larger looked like an SI as well, but I'm thrown by the smaller having more of an occ black eye, I was wondering if they both are even the same.
Pics are not clear enough for me.

As for color, usually the black fills in more w/ age, that small one w/ the orange patch would typically lose that as it darkens, but I agree there are factors we can not control or even understand sometimes.
My picasso's got nice black filled in (OP this is usually what most of us actually prefer) but when I had them in a BTA specific that black started to fade back out, and then I pulled those BTA's and most of the black came back, and I don't think anyone really understands or can explain that, just is.
 
But if you look at top pic of larger/female the eye is mostly orange which is indicative of percula, the smaller has the eye typical of occ unless it's just a badly shadowed pic.

Luckily I have had a few of those SI true percs with black dorsal fins to be able to ID them. With so many hybrids and designers flooding the market it's becoming easier to misidentify clowns. LOL
The fact that their tails are so dark makes me want to stick with my ID:
an Ocellaris clown selectively bred for darker colors. Or in the alternative, percula/occy hybrid.
Here is a wild caught pair I had a while ago
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And here's a video of another true percula pair I had. One of them has a black dorsal also.
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