Zeovit SPS reefs

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8893592#post8893592 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefman77
I didnt start using Kalk until recently. at that time I was using Kent marine turbo calcium which dosent affect PH or alkalinity
Either way Zeovit is not to blame for you alk and ph issues.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8891350#post8891350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ycnibrc
same here my PE is 24/7 since I try ultralith system.

Anthony


What is this system?
Is it a zeo system.
Where do you buy it?
Thanks,
Frank
 
Either way Zeovit is not to blame for you alk and ph issues

Agreed, I have been ruinning zeo for 18 months and alk and ph are fine in my tank, if anything they run low on my tank, alk 7.7, ph 7.7-7.9. My biggest issues have always been keeping my params stable, alk fluctuations are a problem on zeo. Every issue I have had has come from params getting whacky. I feel like zeo makes it a bit trickier in the sense of margin for error. There just is not a lot of room for drifts in params.

As far as algae...that was the main reason I decided to run the zeo system. My last tank was taken over by bryopsis and every other macro algae, hair, turf, cotton candy looking stuff, you name it. The first year of that tank was a fight...I almost quit due to major algae issues, I ran a DSB, refugium, and had all the bells and whistles. This go around, zeo from the start...not one issue with any macro algae in 18 months. To me that is worth gold in my tank. The killer colors are just icing on the cake :). I have had to figure it out, issues here and there with STN, tip recession, tweaking things. Figuring out what was off has righted every situation. I run zeo on 55g net water volume. so larger tanks probably have an easier time of it due to larger water volume and more stability, but that is reefing in general. Is it for everybody? heck no...There are so many great tanks out there running all kinds of unique ways. Find what works for you and keep good maintenance on the tank and it should work for you...whatever you do :D.
 
Better off controling what is going into your reef and save money on zeo if you have a big system. Lots of spectacular systems don't use zeo.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8894820#post8894820 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 250G
Better off controling what is going into your reef and save money on zeo if you have a big system. Lots of spectacular systems don't use zeo.

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u still have to be in control what's going into tank while on zeo...what kind of statement is that...? it's not like u dump zeo in tank, and snap your fingers...it requires exact knowledge/dosing, time, patience, husbandry, etc, etc... IMO u cannot match the coloration and clarity of a PROPERLY ran zeo system...sure there are some very nice colorful non zeo tanks...
-i'll give u 1 thing...it can get alot more expensive w/ a big system.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8894954#post8894954 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DMK
IMO u cannot match the coloration and clarity of a PROPERLY ran zeo system...sure there are some very nice colorful non zeo tanks...
From what I've seen, there's at least as many amazing non-zeo tanks as zeo tanks. To claim otherwise is to skip over many TOTM and other amazing tanks [JB NY, KevinPo, MojoReef, Steve Weast, Kip, etc etc etc] that didn't need zeo to achieve their results.

I personally don't see any significant difference, except in the cost of achieving the same results.
 
The result that YOU prefer is all that matters.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895206#post8895206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
this thread is gonna turn into something ugly very soon

that's why i'm out of this from here on out...i'm not gonna waste my time or anyone else's argiung...my comment was not meant to start an argument, just stating the facts...have a good day guys...
:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895108#post8895108 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MiddletonMark
From what I've seen, there's at least as many amazing non-zeo tanks as zeo tanks. To claim otherwise is to skip over many TOTM and other amazing tanks [JB NY, KevinPo, MojoReef, Steve Weast, Kip, etc etc etc] that didn't need zeo to achieve their results.

I personally don't see any significant difference, except in the cost of achieving the same results.

I agree with the first part of what you said but what I see is that more people are achieving that level easier and more quickly with the aid of zeovit. When you consider the short amout of time Zeo has been available, it is difficult to ignore the results.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8894954#post8894954 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DMK
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u still have to be in control what's going into tank while on zeo...what kind of statement is that...? it's not like u dump zeo in tank, and snap your fingers...it requires exact knowledge/dosing, time, patience, husbandry, etc, etc... IMO u cannot match the coloration and clarity of a PROPERLY ran zeo system...sure there are some very nice colorful non zeo tanks...
-i'll give u 1 thing...it can get alot more expensive w/ a big system.

Don't be confused - my statement meerly suggested that a PROPERLY managed reef does not require such a addative to acheive in great colours and excellent coral health.

The individuals MiddletonMark mentioned are good examples of this. I don't use it in my reef...but I guess that is obvious (I also don't sell it).

Does anyone think that Zeo will make any system better? Even an existing system with great colour and low nutrients?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895206#post8895206 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
this thread is gonna turn into something ugly very soon
Not if people don't resort to personal attacks, or make wild sweeping comments about one way being `better' or `more successful', etc.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895568#post8895568 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by prodman
I agree with the first part of what you said but what I see is that more people are achieving that level easier and more quickly with the aid of zeovit. When you consider the short amout of time Zeo has been available, it is difficult to ignore the results.
`Easier' is arguable, similarly the time-period.

IMO, most of the remarkable tanks of any kind I've seen are by experienced folks in the hobby, amazingly dedicated to their tanks, and often with a lot of time/tweaking that has happened along the way. When we start naming the truly spectacular tanks ... seems like most folks are 4+ years in the hobby.

IMO, that's not something that is easy or quick, any way you choose to go about it.

But we can agree to disagree :)
 
I ran zeo for a few months and stopped. Didn't think it helped lower my nutrients at all to tell you the truth. My phos were actually creeping up and my nitrates were still detectable and I hated dosing every morning before work and pumping the rocks and kneading the carbon. The corals didn't respond any better and since i stopped zeo, everything has finally been coloring up again, my no3 are completely undetectable and my phos is getting lower due to a phosban reactor and phosar. I know someone that has been running zeo for 2 years and he's experiencing a high phos problem as well.

The thing that gets me is that zeo calls for overskimming and frequent water changes along with the basic 4 to lower your nutrients. Wouldn't that cause your tank to be nutrient poor regardless? Also, when I was reading other people's problems on zeovit, they were told to increase their K or potassium which meant I had to go out and buy another 50 dollar bottle and dose every morning and night. Either way, it was too much work for me and now since i stopped, i've been enjoying my tank quite a bit more, not to mention I have extra money in my pocket each month haha.

I'm not bashing on zeovit, but just saying it didn't work for me.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895910#post8895910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishfanatic06
The flow through my canister filter is 325 gph. Would this be too much flow for the zeorocks?

yup, you should be around 100 gph
 
My problem with Zeovit is how the product was marketed & the way they rape hobbyists on the cost. Initially they boasted how you could have these awesome colors using the basic four.

I haven't heard, seen, or know of anybody that gets anything but washed out colors close to bleaching with the basic four after being run for months. You have to use the other additives to darken the corals back up & each one is more expensive than the next.

Every time you turn around they are boasting about the next best new "must have"additive or their $90 a bucket salt.

It's great that there's competition out there now in the states & in time I think the overall costs will drop for all the zeo type systems.

As for results I think the product works fine if you follow directions & go slow. I also like the zeo website.
I'm not a big fan of the pastel like colors that dominate these sytems either.
 
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