600gal (96x48x30)

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6765822#post6765822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tomasz
Shan did you drill the hole at the bottom of the tank? If so why?

When I order my tank it I only had the one 2" hole on the back pane... My original plan(s) were to have an external overflow with two 2" drains and when I decided that I wanted to "hide" the Tunzes I moved the overflow internal and at that time I went down to one 2" drain (not sure why I did away with a backup drain)... Also I didn't know for sure what skimmer I was planning to go with so I didn't think about the feed line...

I have learned alot for this project and still learning... The main reason for setting this tank up now in my current house is to have hands on experience with setting and running a larger system so that when I move in the future into what I hope to be my final house I will have everything I have learned from this project that I can use to build my next (prob bigger) tank... I have already started to get idea for my next tank and this one is not even setup... I didn't want to drill the tank, but I didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t want to half *** it either...
 
finally got back up to speed on your tank. so you decided to go with a three drain setup. the lower drain is the primary and the one of the higher drains is for gravity feeding the BK and the second higher drain is a secondary drain for excess or emergency draining?
also can you explain the specs on the functioning of the tunze boxes? ive been strongly considering sticking with nothing but tunze for my upgrade and doing away with any CL but im not sure how i can cleverly hide the tunze and still get flow to all the desired areas of the tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6771325#post6771325 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xdusty6920
finally got back up to speed on your tank. so you decided to go with a three drain setup. the lower drain is the primary and the one of the higher drains is for gravity feeding the BK and the second higher drain is a secondary drain for excess or emergency draining?
also can you explain the specs on the functioning of the tunze boxes? ive been strongly considering sticking with nothing but tunze for my upgrade and doing away with any CL but im not sure how i can cleverly hide the tunze and still get flow to all the desired areas of the tank.

Correct the lowest 2" drain is the primary and the upper left drain will be an emergency drain (hopefully never used) and the upper right drain will be used to feed the BK400 EXT...

As for the Tunzes I will have 6 total (2x6200s and 4x6100s) I will have each side on their own controller and on dedicated (different) circuits incase a breaker is tripped it does not kill all of my circulation... I will be running them from like 30% - 100% power intermittently to get random flow in the display...
 
If you are going to dedicate one drain for your skimmer, it will need to be the bottom drain. You can then either use both upper drains or put an elbow on the inside of one to raise it a little higher than the other one and use that one as the emergency backup.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6775149#post6775149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
If you are going to dedicate one drain for your skimmer, it will need to be the bottom drain. You can then either use both upper drains or put an elbow on the inside of one to raise it a little higher than the other one and use that one as the emergency backup.

Why is that ?? For the main 2" it will have the 2" durso on it and for the other two 1.5" drains they will have a 90 as well with some pipe set at different levels...

My Dart will be running at about 6ft of head, so I will be getting around 2200-2400gph ?? Do you think that is too much through the sump ??
 
Shawn,

I thought something similar because I forgot that you will use internal piping to change the levels of the drains. I think 2200-2400gph through the sump is fine. That's about what I have and it runs great. I think you'll be happy (and your reef) with that.

I am really impressed that you got those holes done with no mishaps. That's not the easiest thing to do!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6775149#post6775149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
If you are going to dedicate one drain for your skimmer, it will need to be the bottom drain. You can then either use both upper drains or put an elbow on the inside of one to raise it a little higher than the other one and use that one as the emergency backup.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6775200#post6775200 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas
Why is that ?? For the main 2" it will have the 2" durso on it and for the other two 1.5" drains they will have a 90 as well with some pipe set at different levels...

My Dart will be running at about 6ft of head, so I will be getting around 2200-2400gph ?? Do you think that is too much through the sump ??

Travis :confused: ??
 
Sorry for the late reply, my email notification did not work very well for me the past few days. I'm only getting notifications to about half the threads I'm subscribed to for some reason.:confused: What makes it even more confusing is that the same thing is happening with email notifications from another board.

I forgot you are using internal piping to change the drain levels. It will just be the easiest to have your skimmer drain be the lowest one in the overflow. I can try to explain why if you need. Since you will be using piping to change the drain levels, it doesn't matter which drain you feed the skimmer with.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6790953#post6790953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
I forgot you are using internal piping to change the drain levels. It will just be the easiest to have your skimmer drain be the lowest one in the overflow. I can try to explain why if you need. Since you will be using piping to change the drain levels, it doesn't matter which drain you feed the skimmer with.

I was planning on using the top right 1.5" (converted down to a 1" to feed the skimmer)... All 3 of the drains will have 90deg on them and the 2" (lowest drain) will have a durso on it set to the middle where the top left (emergency drain) will be set highest (hopefully never used) and then the top right will have the lowest stand pipe in the overflow... I will to draw up a pic to give a visual...
 
Here is a ruff drawing looking at the display tank from the front... Do you think this will work ?? Do you think I would even need the stand pipe on the 1.5" that will be feeding the skimmerââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦ Maybe leave the pipe off and just have a 90deg on the BH or nothing at all ??

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6790953#post6790953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
I'm only getting notifications to about half the threads I'm subscribed to for some reason.:confused: What makes it even more confusing is that the same thing is happening with email notifications from another board.
A bit off the main topic but, could the notifications be being routed into your junk mail folder? About half of my RC notifications are flagged as 'bulk'. My ISP has threatened to 'protect' me be automatically deleting bulk mail and my junk mail filter often moves them automatically to my junk mail folder.
 
asnatlas, that will work fine. I honestly don't know if it would make much of a difference whether the skimmer feed drain has a standpipe or not. Having a standpipe that is drawing water from closer to the surface level in the overflow might draw a slightly higher concentration of proteins but I doubt it would be enough to make any significant difference. Having a lower standpipe or no standpipe at all will ensure that you are not sucking air or drawing in air bubbles created by the overflowing water, which will keep the flow rate more stable.

nickb, actually, I think I figured out the problem. As I was going through my email last night, I noticed a ton of thread update notifications. I was looking at the date and times that the emails originated and some of them were clear back from Friday morning but I didn't recieve them until last night. Must have been some problems over the past few days with the mail server or something.
 
Wow I hope you going to be able to keep water level in the overflow. I'm sure it will work, but it's going to take few tries.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6792049#post6792049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
Having a lower standpipe or no standpipe at all will ensure that you are not sucking air or drawing in air bubbles created by the overflowing water, which will keep the flow rate more stable.

That is what I was thinking...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6792057#post6792057 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tomasz
Wow I hope you going to be able to keep water level in the overflow. I'm sure it will work, but it's going to take few tries.

Why do you think that I will have a problem with keeping the water level in the overflow ??

I am hoping to have the RO running by this wk end... I broke down and ordered an aquatech 8800 booster pump tpday so maybe it will not take me like 7 days to fill up the system :rolleye1:

I can't wait to get water in this thing so that I can start playing with the Tunzes, BK400, Aquatronica, and everything else... I am going to have so much fun with just the RO water in it for the first wk...
 
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with all that flow going into one internal overflow, you better make sure to keep the teeth on the top very clean. If something gets sucked onto the teeth you could have a huge flood with no second overflow. It looks like you will need to get a lot of water into that overflow. Are you planning to widen the teeth? Coraline will also greatly reduce the water you can get into the overflow one the tank is mature. I have 2 overflows and if you don't keep them very clean you can see the difference in the water level in the tank. With only one you will have little room for error.
 
There won't be any problems keeping the water level in the overflow level. He is only sending a small fraction of the total water flow amount to the skimmer. This will keep the water level at the top where the durso is handling the majority of it.
 
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