A Splash of Color

I'm sure they make wayyyyyyyy more than that.

+1 it's really sad, I have no problem paying a premium for a nice aquacultured piece but I don't want to spend a fortune on a fresh cut wild or maricultured piece. Ridiculous.

Andrew you always blow me away with your acro porn, that red piece is stunning.
 
Andrew,
That red coral is so beautiful, one of the neatest acros I have seen in quite awhile, I see that Dom has something nearly identical in his tank...hmmm.......:hmm2::hmm2::hmm2:
 
Last Friday Dave from Deer Park aquarium sent me a text asking me wth was bigglejuice as he had just had the sixth customer ask him if he could get it for them or knew what was in it - yeah right Dave :rolleyes:

Whilst in the shop Saturday morning both Dave and Mark insisted they weren't making it up despite my polite suggestions otherwise. Then a guy walks in while i was annoying Mark and asks Dave for guess bloody what !
Mark was like ' i told you didn't i ! ' and we all had a crazy giggle together :lmao:

Do any of you seriously think i can dose a single solution once every morning for 11 weeks and feed the fish with no water changes and only a skimmer, matrix and a small bag of carbon and get results like this..........

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can. :)


Much rambling will be forthcoming this weekend and when i shut up i am confident that all of you will know why this hobby has been so hit and miss for everyone for so long. When you actually know what it is you are controlling with the method you have chosen to follow it will be become much easier to make it work for you.

I hope to make keeping colorful healthy corals much, much easier for everyone. As you can see it works amazingly well and i am 95% certain i know why but i want make sure i haven't lost my marbles so i will share my thoughts with you guys.

The key to success has never been about pigment production - you need only suppress one group of pigments in order to see the results i achieve and all of you deserve to see it too for all the time, money and heartache that you invest in the hobby.

Zooxanthellae are not the problem and keeping healthy populations ensures healthy growing corals. The problem with zoa is they use pigments to utilize light energy and since we can never match the nutrition available to our coral 24/7 on the reef they rely on zoa way too much. We throw lots of food and aminos and blah blah blah in trying to make the water full of goodness and what happens - bloody algae, cyano etc has a field day. So then we load up with all sorts of equipment and ideas like gfo etc to deal with that fallout but now the corals are losing the colors..........

If you could limit the amount of chlorophyll a zoa was able to replenish during lights on you would 'lighten' the zoa and thus allow more PUR to strike the acro tissue. You would in effect be 'unmasking' pigments and 'forcing' their production at the same time all while maintaining healthy populations of zoa.

Cyano, algae and zoa all have one thing in common - photosystems. If you were somehow able to inhibit photosystem I & II you would theoretically be able to both lighten zoa and inhibit the ability of photosynthetic organisms such as cyano and algae to produce the pigments that are critical to their survival. You would have a display with sparkling white sand, no problem algae and most important to all of us - bright colorful corals :)

So what do you think so far, sound crazy or implausible ? :reading:
 
I'm listening :) would be foolish not to, given the evidence you've got posted all over this thread.
 
hi andrew!

thanks for the pics and text...

so for me as not native speaking person i had to read carefully and be very careful to not miss any sarcasitic subtext, but taking all above for real it sound not wrong...

we today know what the corals need from our lightsoucres, but what the chemical background is isn´t that clear in my opinion.. we know much but not all
but you tank really is showing what is possible without adding 1000 of little mixtures every hour^^

hope that makes any sense :D

so i´m really looking forward to read the rest of your ideas!!
Flo
 
Andrew, your lost marbles aside... Kevin's probably got a good large collection of your lost marbles, you are clearly onto something..
This reminds me of your little comment about biochromes in Matt's thread a few months back..
Would trying to reduce the zoox in corals as much as possible and promote the saturation of the corals' biochromes, be what your basic aim is with bigglejuice?
.. Or am I confusing or conflating the concepts of zoox and biochromes...
Looking forward to reading more!
 
That's definatly a photo shopped glue tube, not cool bro....

I finally found one of the aussie Terri del fuego wilds like you have above. Never thought I would find one so I am very happy! Looking forward to see how thoes wild colonies grow in, looking good!
 
I have been carrying out an experiment for the past six days along the lines Andrew nicely articulated in his latest post. My aim is to see if I can repeat his success. I have subscribed to his hypothesis. I will need to wait another eight days to get early results.

Cheers

Bulent
 
I have been carrying out an experiment for the past six days along the lines Andrew nicely articulated in his latest post. My aim is to see if I can repeat his success. I have subscribed to his hypothesis. I will need to wait another eight days to get early results.

Cheers

Bulent
His disciples gather!
 
You touch a thing very important here, and we'll wait your conclusion and how to make this situation stable (in fact if algae are inhibate... something else take care of nutrient ... corals and bacteria normally? )

Stef
 
Would trying to reduce the zoox in corals as much as possible and promote the saturation of the corals' biochromes, be what your basic aim is with bigglejuice?
.. Or am I confusing or conflating the concepts of zoox and biochromes...
Looking forward to reading more!

Hi Matt,

if I understood Andrew correctly, unlike the Zeovit methodology, Andrew does not target zooxanthellatae population on a coral. He targets one of the components of it, chlorophyll a, instead.

In a private conversation, Andrew posed me the following excellent question:

"Why do tree leaves change colour in fall?"

What would be your answer?

Here is a possible explanation:

http://earthsky.org/earth/why-do-tree-leaves-turn-red-in-fall

On a personal note, I think that there is an inherent risk in chlorophyll manipulation. For this reason, I am doing it very slowly as per Andrew's advice. I write no more as this is Andrew's thread.
 
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Hey ho guys, i have to go to work but i'm knocking off early since it's Friday morning here and i'll continue discussing what i'm sure most of you think is a load of rubbish given some of the replies.

How many of you are aware of the scientific study examining the effects of slightly elevated levels of manganese chloride in an iron limited environment on cyano, how the effects are most pronounced the lower the alk of the water. How manganese is oxidised very fast by the UV/blue light spectrum so you need daily dosing to keep any useable amounts in your water for any useful time period.
I am certain that once you become aware of the circumstances that both assist manganese to work its magic and prevent it from being effective that you will all look at zeo, AF with a new found perspective and won't be wondering why these methods give some amazing results and others see bugger all good from trying it.

Be back later taters........ :)
 
All very interesting Andrew. Your corals look great. You have my attention mate. Look forward to reading more.
 
Get on with it would ya! :headwally: I respectfully asked what was in the B juice like weeks ago and got nothing, ur such a tease :D
 
Such a tease! And he's prolly gonna make us pay for him to give up the goods like a two bit hooker! The nerve
 
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