see, many started calling this product snake oil, interestingly same ppl who dont ever try zeovit additives and call them snake oil. ...
many on this thread were using it, and were sceptical of it, and were writting very rude comments on zeovit forums for Pohl !
now, they are coming back and applogizing one by one for the rude comments, and posting pics of their healthy and happy reefs. just a happy accidents that ppl with flatworm used this and accidentally they got rid of it ?
about them being gone ... you are right 250G, BUT, why do we care about existance of flatworms ? cuase they harm our corals right ? now if they were "reef safe" would be still have problem with their existance ? probably not
so I think its the same thing .. gone, or no more damage from them ....
I am hoping though, in my system, without a host, they would perish, but no way of knowing.
FWIW, everyone who has used this product, was sattisfied at the end of 3 months. and those who never used it, will always call it snake oil ...
Can you point me to any studies done on this product?
Were beta users given this product in one control group while another control
group given a placebo?
Can you provide a full list of the ingredients?
Why does the product cost so much?
Why did you bring the whole zeo product line into this discussion? Isn't that
called a straw man argument?
"just a happy accidents that ppl with flatworm used this and accidentally they got rid of it ? "
what proof can you offer to back up this statement? often when people try
a new product they take special care of their tank over the period they are
using the product. By also doing increased dipping of coral, blowing pests off
the corals with a baster/pump, scraping areas or removing areas of a coral
that may contain eggs, adding a new pest removing animal, removing an
especially infected piece of coral totally, etc...
Which often leads to positive results that might not have anything to do with
this product.
This feels like the old feed your fish garlic to ward off ich.
I also have a feeling that the ingredients of this product are already contained
in existing products on the market at a fraction of the cost.
Keep in mind that it is not up to us, the possible audience of users, to prove
the product works. It is up to the manufacturer to provide proof that it works
via a scientific study or another related method showing positive results. So
far I have not seen anything yet but I am open to any and all links showing
such research from the manufacturer.
Until then we have a potion being dripped into tanks that have so many variables
in play that it is almost impossible to determine what is going on. It is that
exact type of situation of why "snake oil" products become viable to sell
and confuse customers.
But I will keep an open mind as I do for any possible product that makes me
logically think it has a chance to work via an active ingredient that has shown
positive results. But if the goal of the product is to have happy smiling healthy
corals I imagine I can achieve that result through good husbandry anyway.
