American Reef Lighting vs Japanese Reef Lighting - Here it is!
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The problem is their sentence structure is a lot different.
...and to make this post somewhat on topic, I'm really enjoying this thread. Keep up the good work, absolutc.
Could you perhaps ask him if other Japanese reef keepers use similar lighting setups when compared to his, and also if he knows of ways to import fish that are common over in Japan but not available in the US? I'd like to know if people over there still use canopies like we do in the US and if those with tank setups like his are just what everyone happens to be focusing on.
...and to make this post somewhat on topic, I'm really enjoying this thread. Keep up the good work, absolutc.
Could you perhaps ask him if other Japanese reef keepers use similar lighting setups when compared to his, and also if he knows of ways to import fish that are common over in Japan but not available in the US? I'd like to know if people over there still use canopies like we do in the US and if those with tank setups like his are just what everyone happens to be focusing on.
David Groos
Member
Anyone know what type of pygmy angles the pair he has are? They look kind of like easter island pygmy's.
Jon_Hewett_85
Member
It apears to me that having the lights like he does allows him to focus the light where it's needed on the corals...but stillhave it up PLENTY high to avoid heat problems. I agree with what he's doing....however on the flip side...my way works to...and if it ain't broke...don't fix it 
after all more than 1 way to skin a cat.
after all more than 1 way to skin a cat.Hi all,
Certainly I am new to posting on this topic, yet old at thinking about the optical needs of our wet friends. I must seriously ask the question below. It arises as an engineer/quantum-physicist very much aware of the specific attributes of natural light at water depth & optical generation sources, growing up much of the time in the Bahamian waters & having a 240g reef or 12 years.
Given the following observations:
-- Countless post asking for the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œWhat is the right amount of lightââ"šÂ¬Ã‚Â, ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ÂWhat is the best lighting,ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ Ã¢â"šÂ¬Ã…"œWill this be enough or too much lightââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢"šÂ¬Ã‚Âââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦.
-- Ditto same question for filtering, water movement, additives, feeding, co-inhabitants, and many ore very critical husbandry parametric.
-- Every we are asked about what is the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œbestââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ for some specific environmental controlling contrivance, or the cause of some specific problem, we instantly ask about many other equal or greater critical methodology
-- We all would expect and accept radically different results between identical systems maintained by different people, and even greater divergence when the systems are similar in one specific domain, but are either different or unknown for others.
I have this question:
What are the other ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œthingsââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œotherââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ aquarists are doing that are necessary, but not sufficient, and are of great importance perhaps far greater that the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œlight bulbââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ being used?
These boards are so fantastic for our ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œhobby.ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ No longer held prisoner by the LFS.
Absolutc, Amazing work you have accomplished, what do you seriously believe is the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œone thing that make the difference? And thank you also for contacting the other aquarists.
Certainly I am new to posting on this topic, yet old at thinking about the optical needs of our wet friends. I must seriously ask the question below. It arises as an engineer/quantum-physicist very much aware of the specific attributes of natural light at water depth & optical generation sources, growing up much of the time in the Bahamian waters & having a 240g reef or 12 years.
Given the following observations:
-- Countless post asking for the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œWhat is the right amount of lightââ"šÂ¬Ã‚Â, ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ÂWhat is the best lighting,ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ Ã¢â"šÂ¬Ã…"œWill this be enough or too much lightââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢"šÂ¬Ã‚Âââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦.
-- Ditto same question for filtering, water movement, additives, feeding, co-inhabitants, and many ore very critical husbandry parametric.
-- Every we are asked about what is the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œbestââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ for some specific environmental controlling contrivance, or the cause of some specific problem, we instantly ask about many other equal or greater critical methodology
-- We all would expect and accept radically different results between identical systems maintained by different people, and even greater divergence when the systems are similar in one specific domain, but are either different or unknown for others.
I have this question:
What are the other ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œthingsââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œotherââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ aquarists are doing that are necessary, but not sufficient, and are of great importance perhaps far greater that the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œlight bulbââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ being used?
These boards are so fantastic for our ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œhobby.ââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ No longer held prisoner by the LFS.
Absolutc, Amazing work you have accomplished, what do you seriously believe is the ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œone thing that make the difference? And thank you also for contacting the other aquarists.
David Groos
Member
Ok that's some carzy money for one of those fish, let alone two!! Oh well, I guess they do get different stuff over there!! I bet that swiss gaurd probably cost him a fortune too!!
I'll bite!! If you can find out where to get a couple of those MHspots I'd bee interested. If nothing else but to some of the iwasaki 50k's on certain corals to bring out colors without turning the whole tank blue.
I'll bite!! If you can find out where to get a couple of those MHspots I'd bee interested. If nothing else but to some of the iwasaki 50k's on certain corals to bring out colors without turning the whole tank blue.
Hello, everyone. This is my first contribution to this online community.
I am Japanese reefer. Absolutc invited me to this excellent website. I am glad to be given by the Japanese tank with interest. In Japan and the U.S., as for me, a equipment is only different, and I think that there is no big difference in the method of beekeeping. The lamp, which became a topic of thread, is not surely required for coral to improve rich color. I am glad if information for reefkeeping can be exchanged by this forums.
Thank you.
This is my first contribution to this online community.I am Japanese reefer. Absolutc invited me to this excellent website. I am glad to be given by the Japanese tank with interest. In Japan and the U.S., as for me, a equipment is only different, and I think that there is no big difference in the method of beekeeping. The lamp, which became a topic of thread, is not surely required for coral to improve rich color. I am glad if information for reefkeeping can be exchanged by this forums.
Thank you.
Yasuhiro,
Welcome.
Would you please share your thoughts on:
-- Spot lighting as compared to general flood lighting
(I have been a proponent of non-uniform lighting for some time)
-- Focused lighting and also use of filtering to reduce the transmission to the tank of IR (infra red = long wave length = heat)
Yasuhiro, Would you consider opening a thread?
Thanks,
Alan
Welcome.
Would you please share your thoughts on:
-- Spot lighting as compared to general flood lighting
(I have been a proponent of non-uniform lighting for some time)
-- Focused lighting and also use of filtering to reduce the transmission to the tank of IR (infra red = long wave length = heat)
Yasuhiro, Would you consider opening a thread?
Thanks,
Alan
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G-money
Premium Member
Here's a little recent reef lighting and coral flourescing info from Steve Tyree for those who are interested - and those that need to get some things straight....be careful, it involves science. :lol:
http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/s_tyree_060202.html
When you speak of lighting and blah blah blah - once the corals have enough light to grow, the rest is purely personal preference. 100%. Folks forget that the corals don't care what color they are.
http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/s_tyree_060202.html
When you speak of lighting and blah blah blah - once the corals have enough light to grow, the rest is purely personal preference. 100%. Folks forget that the corals don't care what color they are.
A couple more links regarding UV and FPs...
http://www.aims.gov.au/pages/research/fish/fisheyes/tpc01.html
and one that hold some good relevant info.
http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/emu/pdf/anya_pdf/Salih_Nature
-Perry
http://www.aims.gov.au/pages/research/fish/fisheyes/tpc01.html
and one that hold some good relevant info.
http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/emu/pdf/anya_pdf/Salih_Nature
-Perry
G-money
Premium Member
absolut,
I hope you are not referring to my posting Mr. Tyree's bit. I simply noticed some earlier interest in flourescing pigments and lighting. What I linked is not an analytical "debate". It is scientific study - much of which was conducted outside the hobby before being applied to the hobby. I would think that everyone would have a vested interest in it. It is acquired from years of research, not "he said, he said". I am not "dissing" anybody, merely providing information on the topic.
As I stated (with apparent foresight), beyond providing for the corals' survival, it's up to you what you do. I don't care if you put strobe lights over your tank...
I hope you are not referring to my posting Mr. Tyree's bit. I simply noticed some earlier interest in flourescing pigments and lighting. What I linked is not an analytical "debate". It is scientific study - much of which was conducted outside the hobby before being applied to the hobby. I would think that everyone would have a vested interest in it. It is acquired from years of research, not "he said, he said". I am not "dissing" anybody, merely providing information on the topic.
As I stated (with apparent foresight), beyond providing for the corals' survival, it's up to you what you do. I don't care if you put strobe lights over your tank...
Yasuhiro,
WELCOME! we're all glad to have you here and share some of ours experiences in the hobby, GREAT!
After answer some of the questions that you have about lighting, why not talk about your tank? some of us are impressed by the difference in the design; in the US all the tanks comes with central brace or even "euro-braces" (braces around the tank) but yours does not have any of this reinforcements; why is that?, is normal in your country? is because the use of thicker glass or maybe difference in the dimmensions (maybe more "cube style")?.
Thanks for your answers and welcome again!
WELCOME! we're all glad to have you here and share some of ours experiences in the hobby, GREAT!
After answer some of the questions that you have about lighting, why not talk about your tank? some of us are impressed by the difference in the design; in the US all the tanks comes with central brace or even "euro-braces" (braces around the tank) but yours does not have any of this reinforcements; why is that?, is normal in your country? is because the use of thicker glass or maybe difference in the dimmensions (maybe more "cube style")?.
Thanks for your answers and welcome again!
Poted by absolutc:
Please, if anyone is going to start anything on this thread, leave. I don't want analitical debates on he said, he said. Let people make their own conclusions.
-Huh? When I read a thread title that says "American Reef Lighting vs Japanese Reef Lighting" I expect to see some "analytical debate". You can't possibly expect to start a thread like this and not have people debate the merits of both can you?
Steve
Please, if anyone is going to start anything on this thread, leave. I don't want analitical debates on he said, he said. Let people make their own conclusions.
-Huh? When I read a thread title that says "American Reef Lighting vs Japanese Reef Lighting" I expect to see some "analytical debate". You can't possibly expect to start a thread like this and not have people debate the merits of both can you?
Steve
Nothing more!
