Anemones, Carpet and Rose

urville

urville

Member
I was just wondering what the concerns with these are. I know they get super huge and need to eat a whole lot right? i was considering getting on of these to replace rbta for my clowns.

But then i am also considering not getting any anemones. i worry one day it will decide to travel and kill all my corals.

I'm not sure what to do at this point, whats YOUR advice?
 
What kind of clowns do you have? Do you have a deep sand bed?
If you do have a deep sand bed I would get a haddoni anemone. If you have ocellaris or percula clowns then a gigantea would be a better choice since it is their natural host in the wild. These anemones stay in the sand so they won't climb up the rocks and sting your corals. Once they pick a spot they will almost never move.
You would probably get more of a responce on the clownfish and anemones forum.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=36
 
OH! Slap the forehead embarrassment. i totally forgot that thread existed. I wonder if i can get the mod to help me move it.

My sand bed is like 2 inches. Too fearful of a crash, only because no one i've ever known has pulled it off longer than 3 or 4 years. But I could bulk up on one side, it's a long tank.

Hmm.. Perculas. false i think. they do host my rose... here
never sure how to tell false from true.
percs.jpg
 
The only carpets that I have kept are Haddonis, and since the only corals that I keep are SPS, I have never had an issue with them moving and killing them. Mainly because the SPS are on the rocks, and the Haddonis are on/in the sandbed. The only time I have lost a frag is when it fell into the Haddoni.

I have kept one under PCs ( 3*96 in a 58 and 6*65 in a 75 ) for extended periods of time, but it "looked" better under halides.
 
I couldnt count the dorsal spines they just never stop rubbing, heh.
has the forward bulge in the middle bar.
the black margins do seem like they match, they go thick and thin, and the anterior dorsal fin is not taller.

So they are true percs. lol.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13591655#post13591655 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by urville
OH! Slap the forehead embarrassment. i totally forgot that thread existed. I wonder if i can get the mod to help me move it.

My sand bed is like 2 inches. Too fearful of a crash, only because no one i've ever known has pulled it off longer than 3 or 4 years. But I could bulk up on one side, it's a long tank.

Hmm.. Perculas. false i think. they do host my rose... here
never sure how to tell false from true.
percs.jpg
Click to expand...

Yeah, they look like perculas to me too.

A little off topic I guess.. Just making sure I understand you right. You say that no one has pulled off a deep sand bed for 3 or 4 years without a tank crash? I have a deep sand bed..but I have nassarius snails, a sand sifting cucumber, sea biscuit, and a sand dwelling anemone. Wouldn't these creatures keep my tank from crashing? I thought deep sand beds were a benifit not a downfall.:confused:
ok, back to topic.
Perculas natural hosts are the difficult anemones. H. Crispa, S. Gigantea and H. Magnifica. You could get a haddoni but they may not accept it as a host. If you decide to get one of their natural hosts, it is difficult to find one that is healthy to begin with. Several people have said that they have bought healthy Giganteas from reefhotspot.com. I have never ordered from them so I can't recommend them.
 
Man. I'm learning that few online sellers label their anemones scientifically. Almost all of the Foster's are just labeled as Stichodactyla sp. I assume they must all be gigantea expcept those with the missing tentacles around the mouth, haddoni's?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13596273#post13596273 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wicked_NaCl_h2o
Yeah, they look like perculas to me too.

A little off topic I guess.. Just making sure I understand you right. You say that no one has pulled off a deep sand bed for 3 or 4 years without a tank crash? I have a deep sand bed..but I have nassarius snails, a sand sifting cucumber, sea biscuit, and a sand dwelling anemone. Wouldn't these creatures keep my tank from crashing? I thought deep sand beds were a benifit not a downfall.:confused:
ok, back to topic.
Perculas natural hosts are the difficult anemones. H. Crispa, S. Gigantea and H. Magnifica. You could get a haddoni but they may not accept it as a host. If you decide to get one of their natural hosts, it is difficult to find one that is healthy to begin with. Several people have said that they have bought healthy Giganteas from reefhotspot.com. I have never ordered from them so I can't recommend them.
Click to expand...

No no no. I've just never seen anyone, I know do it, and it was real popular here for a long time. I've seen it attempted, but no one ever made it long term. That's all. Maybe it wasnt even related, but people were saying the same thing online, it was coming under alot of fire, i know knowledgeble people and they warned me against it and to me it just wasn't worth the risk.

If it works for you, that's awesome. It's just not for me. I have a method that works already thats all. I dont have any nitrates ever, and it was cheaper to get to than all the sand, and critters, so cost and risk were my factors.

I dont want to open that can of worms. lol. I was just saying, thats why i dont have one.

ON what you said:
Well, they love the rose. That wont hurt them right to switch on them?

I recently had a friend and his just up and decided to move one day, burnt alot of stuff, most made it, he fragged the good parts but... aye aye aye... got me worried a bit and we actually like carpets more.

there are two shops near me in greeley, co and one has one in a display tank. This new tank's water has been 0 readable Phos and Nitrate since the second month it's been up and it's coming on a year, so I thought we could consider something more hardy now that we're a bit more establiched on this system and I know some people who really want a rose but are afraid to ship, etc.
 
Last edited:
almost ALWAYS, the carpets shipped from Foster's (Liveaquaria) are S. haddoni. I tried several times, speaking with employees on numerous occasions to secure S. gigantea but to no avail. Would try elsewhere..or perhaps look in their diver's den: WYSIWYG.
 
Dang it, I KNEW something was up with that when they wouldnt specify on the listing!

I'll be looking later today and post here. Reefhotspot is out of nearly every kind of carpet right now.
 
I know how you feel.
When I was looking for a purple haddoni all I could find is giganteas. You are looking for a gigantea and all you can find is haddonis. Well good luck in your search..I hope you find a healthy blue or purple one.:)
 
Any reccomendations other than fosters on good experiences with ordering and livestock?

Anyone familiar with Marine Center, blue zoo, Saltwaterfish.com, marine depots livestock store?, or otherwise?

I have done much ordering and I figure on something this delicate, well...

I assume its the same health checklist as most anemones if I spot one in a store this weekend in Denver right? footed, not a gaping mouth, brightly colored, ask them to feed it a small chunk to see if it takes food?
 
Yeah, thats a good checklist.
As you notice saltwaterfish isn't a sponsor..some people have had a good experience with them but the bad experiences out weigh the good.< I wouldn't buy anemones from a company that likes to sell dyed anemones. Its a shady company, I would not trust them.
Is Marine center back in business? I thought they didn't have anything in stock.
Bluezoo is fantastic..everything I have ordered from them has been extremely healthy. I bought my purple LTA from them..they also have great costomer service.
I don't know about marine depot < haven't ordered livestock from them but their drygoods always arrived to me in great condition even with free shipping.
I bought my carpet anemone from reefscience.com It came to me very healthy. This was a mertensii though..they are known to handle shipping well.
The best place to find a healthy gigantea would be to find one locally.
 
ditto on the locally. it's how i got my gigantea. took about two years of looking, but i serendipitously wandered in one saturday morning and the boneheads were feeding krill 3X/day to a bleached gigantea. brought it home, it colored up, been almost a year now (not to rub it in). and since they didn't know what they had, it only cost me 50 bucks. hah!
 
Well I'll have to go out of state. We actually dont have even one LFS that would have anything like that in the whole state.
 
I have looked high and low... forget locally, I went regional to no avail.

I know they both stay on the substrate, and that the gigantea is the perc's true wild anemone... but as they are looking impossible to find i am wondering if it is possible or really pretty likely that since they are hosted to a entamacea quadricolor or rose bubble tip they wouldnt find the haddoni a suitable home since technically it is closer to their natural paired anemone than the entamacea.
 
I did email jon about that! lol.. thanks for the heads up though charlie cause till yesterday i couldnt for the LIFE of me rememeber where I had seen that down there.

I am worried though about whther they'll take to it, wicked_NaCl_h2o really put the fear in me, lol
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Ab129
Replacing a clown
Replies
11
Views
426
Uncle99
Uncle99
T
New carpet Anemone
Replies
8
Views
1K
bradleym
bradleym
OrionN
Anemone Show-off
2
Replies
24
Views
1K
Cjs305510
C
B
  • Question Question
Soft Water
Replies
13
Views
468
wvned
wvned
R
some random questions
Replies
1
Views
118
SantaMonica
S
Back
Top