Anyone own or ever seen an Elos System?

[Nuuze]

I also posted this in the lighting and filtration but since Elos USA is local around here... I been checking out the System 120 which is about 80 gallons complete with tank, cabinet, sump, skimmer and pumps. I'm also looking at their lighting which is the Planet II series with 2 - 150W HQI and 4 T5's. Anyone ever seen these setups in person or personally own one?

Nuuze

 

[GreshamH]

I've seen them in person, adn I can only saw "WoW"

 

[Skorpinok]

I saw an Elos system at AC in Hayward. It's defiantly a nice system by a little on the pricey side.

 

[Qwiv]

Of all the all in one systems, these ones are one of the better systems, that don't require you to modify everything. The only thing we changed on a friends tanks was to make the substrate filter section an 'upside down sand bed'. Basically a form of a DSB. Added a light for some macro. The skimmer works pretty good and the CA reactor was decent. I would give it a 80% in terms of efficiency and the use of current methods. Most complete systems are a 20% IMO. If you don't want to be bothered with building the system yourself, and can afford it, I would say go for it. The only real downside to the system is it is regular glass. Ask if they can do Starfire or another low iron glass for the viewing panes.

 

[elosusa]

Our standard float glass is actually about 35% clearer than standard float glass and low iron is available but not standard. What reactor did they have? I have not sold any reactors to local retailers or customers and this may not be an elos reactor.

 

[Qwiv]

Their not local.
Didn't know about the upgraded glass. That is pretty sweet. You should advertise that!! Starfire as an option as well, even better. Still the best complete system without it.

 

[elosusa]

Yeah a few ask about the low iron option and we probably should add that to the catalog or website. The REA being "decent" is the first I have heard of this and I wonder if it was run fluidized or gravitational and if they were running our media or an aragonite media? At Interzoo that is one of the pieces of equipment that got a ton of attention and I would love to hear feedback on any way to improve upon this. I actually run the REA 120 plus and Gresham is now the proud owner of a JS1 because of it I had to cut my timer down an hour since the switch. If the person is comfortable pm'ing me it is always good to get feedback since there are so few in the country. Thanks for the compliment on the system and good idea on the use of the filter chambers on the SUMP, I have seen that done once in Germany.

 

[Qwiv]

I only say it is decent as I don't have any experience besides setting it up and tuning it. I was long gone before I could get a feel for performance. I haven't received a complaint from the user so I must have set it up right. I'll have to say it is the prettiest reactor out there. My only worry would be breaking it (user error, like dropping it). I don't think I could fix it and not turn it into a frankinstein. You also pay for the look of it, when all I really want is performance. You could set the thing up on the counter with some LEDs under it and use it as a show piece. Maybe you could supply it with an acrylic housing for the pump???.

 

[elosusa]

I am sure he/she will be happy with the performance and I would love to hear any feedback they might have. I should state that the Reactor is not included with the system and some may get the impression that it does. There is also a good review on my sponsor forum if anyone needs more info....

 

[Nuuze]

Here ya go:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=961293

 

[Kinetic]

i was working with jesse on a possible elos system as well, but it seems that I was looking for a very specific custom system that they weren't able to do. their systems come complete and run really well for those who don't want hassle, and don't want to compromise for a (like others have said) system that needs a lot of modification to be able to handle the higher end livestock.

also jesse provides awesome customer service, so you'll be sure you're getting exactly what you're looking for =)

 

[GreshamH]

Can't or won't do? Somethings that US manufacturers, especially aquariums, can't be done in other countries due to regulations. IE. Germany requires all aquariums be built and tested to meet a 10 year standard.

 

[Kinetic]

well i wanted a regular overflow box (square corner) with schedule 80 sized drain/return, but they only put in elos overflow boxes with their design unfortunately.

customize wise, they can do pretty much everything else, including doing starphire, adding extra compartments to sumps for a fuge etc.

 

[GreshamH]

So it's a matter of won't, not can't then

 

[Kinetic]

OMG gresh you're gonna have to give me that prop tank back

yes they "won't" do it cuz they hate my guts and they know I"ll sell it to someone else in a matter of days anyway.

aagh you guys! =)

 

[Nuuze]

Kinetic,

The Elos overflow setup really isn't that bad unless you plan on using the enclosure for something. In the past my overflows just got all kinds of crap and fish stuck at the bottom. The parts are very heavy duty, I would say thicker than schedule 40 and maybe thicker than schedule 80. the drain is 40MM which is about 1 1/2 inch and the return is 1/2 inch. By the looks of it you can change the return to 3/4 if you like but all the plumbing is provided from pump to return spout. Also the spout is threaded for loc-line fittings.

 

[Kinetic]

hi nuuze, thanks for the info! what kind of plumbing do they use? i did inquire about using higher schedule plumbing, but it seemed like that wasn't a problem but that they'd use only an elos overflow. The return I was hoping for at least 1", preferably 1.5" =/

it was hard getting this info about the overflow, nor were there any details on how it worked, what kind of plumbing, and pictures.

hopefully you will be able to document all your experiences with it (i'm keeping tabs on your other thread) and eventually I can probably put one together =)

thanks for all the info!!

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8448760#post8448760 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kinetic
OMG gresh you're gonna have to give me that prop tank back

yes they "won't" do it cuz they hate my guts and they know I"ll sell it to someone else in a matter of days anyway.

aagh you guys! =)

That's not what I was getting at Art I wasn't actually poking any fun at you, or anything. What I was trying to get at, his the can do it, but they won't do it. Many manufacturers choose not to do certain options others will. It doesn't mean they can't, just that they won't. The Elos O/F is world class, asking them to do less, is like asking for ketchup for your Kobe beef :lol:

 

[Kinetic]

ah, I understand now. Yes it's pretty darn easy to put two pieces of glass together to make an overflow, but I'm thinking they pride themselves in their own designed overflow. It's interesting, I wish they'd give a diagram of how it works etc. that would be sweet =)

 

[Nuuze]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8448797#post8448797 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kinetic
hi nuuze, thanks for the info! what kind of plumbing do they use? i did inquire about using higher schedule plumbing, but it seemed like that wasn't a problem but that they'd use only an elos overflow. The return I was hoping for at least 1", preferably 1.5" =/

it was hard getting this info about the overflow, nor were there any details on how it worked, what kind of plumbing, and pictures.

hopefully you will be able to document all your experiences with it (i'm keeping tabs on your other thread) and eventually I can probably put one together =)

thanks for all the info!!

Here are some pics from the other thread.

The return was already on when I purchased but its threaded and removable.

The bulkhead assembly is pretty darn thick. (you could knock someone out with it, it so thick) Also removable.

Here are the two pumps that come with the system. (Eheim 1250 & 1260)

Elos USA facility is local (Pleasanton) so I'm sure Jesse will disassemble it for you to see. He's very professional guy to deal with.