anyone tried to using Jebo WP40?

[james-lee]

This cable will allow me to connect to my apex and run self created variable speed profile correct? Has anyone tried running any of the preprogrammed Vortech profiles ?


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From what bhazard said yes.

 

[barry_keith]

PM me a link James please. BTW, wth? he was contributing a lot to this site, real bummer he got banned. I hope he is still posting somewhere about this.

If you go to reef angels site and click order or store you'll see it.

 

[bluewater921]

RR did you find anywhere

 

[Terrance]

I'm on my 3-4th day of using this pump and I've noticed that on W1 mode, when the pump stops and spins again, sometimes the propeller doesn't spin on the first couple rotations and makes a clicking noise like it's trying to start back up but can't. Has anyone else seen this happen? It'll spin again but only after like the 2nd or 3rd attempt. I'll try to get a video of it.

I get the same stops. I think its just the pump.

 

[ArmanS]

If we can control these with the apex that would be icing on the cake!

 

[Rambomessiah]

Ordered 2 on the the 13th and I received them today. Great timing as I just finished my plumbing and I'll be filling up my 120 this weekend. Fingers crossed!

 

[SimonSKL]

RA is taking pre orders for their jebao cable that should work on the apex and rkl.(

$25 for a cable with parts worth about $5 is a little steep for a $85 pump.

 

[treetopflyn]

$25 for a cable with parts worth about $5 is a little steep for a $85 pump.

Supply and Demand.

 

[SimonSKL]

Supply and Demand.

Did we learn anything about this Chinese pump and why they are so popular.

 

[jbaeza83]

$25 for a cable with parts worth about $5 is a little steep for a $85 pump.

Do you know what parts we need to make our own cable? I would be needed 2 of them and $50 for them is a little too much like you said.

 

[hollback]

Do you know what parts we need to make our own cable? I would be needed 2 of them and $50 for them is a little too much like you said.

I'm also interested in making a few of these cables IF someone can confirm that it will work with an Apex.

 

[DOJO21]

Do you know what parts we need to make our own cable? I would be needed 2 of them and $50 for them is a little too much like you said.

bhazard described earlier in the thread what cables you needed.

 

[SimonSKL]

I'm also interested in making a few of these cables IF someone can confirm that it will work with an Apex.

If you go back to a post by bhazard he mentioned he installed a PWM
module to work with his APEX.

 

[DOJO21]

Thanks! Now I have a shopping list .

here ya go

 

[DOJO21]

Here's a quick one

For Neptune Apex:

0-10v analog input PWM module:
Search ebay for LED DIMMER PWM 10 A.12VDC-24 VDC; POT. or 0-10V control

Cat5e ethernet cord

Wire nuts or solder and heat shrink tubing

Solid core wires (or wires that can handle up to 5A) stevesleds has some

Unscrew the controller casing

24- is blue
24+ is reddish
VA is green yellow and remains untouched

Cut the blue and red wire about halfway down, so you have enough wire connected to the controller still, and some down the cord.

Add solid core wire to extend the wire length with wire nuts, solder, or some way to connect the wires securely.

The 0-10v PWM module terminals look like this -+ +-

The first -(blue) and +(red) go to the pump wires

The next +(red) -(blue) are the ones connected to the controller internals 24+ and 24- points

The following saves you $14 over getting a neptune vdm cord.

Cut one end of a Cat 5e ethernet cord off.

Keep the following wires:
orange/white wire (positive) - orange wire (negative)
blue/white wire (positive) - green wire (negative)

When plugged into the first VDM port, blue/white green is V1, oranges are V2
Second port, blue white green is V3, oranges V4

On the 0-10v module for V1, connect blue/white to + on 0-10v control input terminal , green to - control.

Put the controller back together in a project box, do a really good job with electrical tape taping the loose box together, or fit it all inside somehow and screw back together.

Set profiles and you're done.

For Apex users

 

[hollback]

Yeah I saw that post long ago but hoped the RA plug would be an easy solution.

So the RA plug won't work with the pump and Apex? It requires the PWM instead?

So how can my Tunzes connect directly to the Apex? They don't contain a PWM.

 

[barry_keith]

Yeah I saw that post long ago but hoped the RA plug would be an easy solution.

So the RA plug won't work with the pump and Apex? It requires the PWM instead?

So how can my Tunzes connect directly to the Apex? They don't contain a PWM.

According to the RA website their cable is compatable with apex.

The pmw module that bhaz used cost $40

The $25 isn't sounding too bad now lol, but I'm sure there is a less expensive DIY route.

 

[treetopflyn]

According to the RA website their cable is compatable with apex.

The pmw module that bhaz used cost $40

The $25 isn't sounding too bad now

I agree

 

[SimonSKL]

The $25 isn't sounding too bad now lol, but I'm sure there is a less expensive DIY route.

This cable shouldn't be priced in the same way as Tunze and Vortech accessories. To me $10-$15 is more reasonable. I am going to stop complaining about the price as I don't even own a RA or an APEX. Lol!

 

[CyclistMT]

Did we learn anything about this Chinese pump and why they are so popular.

Ah but the cable is a niche product for a niche product (lots more Tunze installed base), early adopters want this (you always pay a premium for being an early adopter), it works with multiple controllers, and I'm guessing it's not mass produced yet so someone is likely putting these together by hand (gotta pay for the labor).

Clearly you can DIY this and while I would have the skill, I don't have the knowledge so if I had a controller I would probably opt to spend the $25 to avoid a learning curve that I don't have time to deal with.

I'm the first to want something as cheap as possible (hence why I've been following this thread and decided to order a couple myself) but I thought I'd just provide a different perspective.




As for the pumps, I agree with everyone else, this is a game changer. This may not ultimately impact Tunze and Vortech much because for someone like me, I wouldn't have plunked down the bills for those pumps anyway. But a company like Hydor should sit up and take notice. Sure they have the Koralia but none of their pumps come close to the WP40 in power or value (when you consider the add on of the controller). Why wasn't Hydor or someone contracting out to Jebao months or even years ago to build this pump for them and slap their name on it. They could have sold it for $150-200 easily and made a killing in the European and American markets. As it is with a gloabal economy and easy payment transfer through Paypal we, as consumers, can go near to the source and cut out many of the middle men. If not Tunze or Vortech, then one of the other big players in the industry, *cough* Coralvue *cough*, should be shaking their heads and wondering how they let this opportunity pass them by.

Oh well, so much the better for us consumers. My two WP40's left Hong Kong yesterday. I can't wait to get them on my 300 and see what they can do!