ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club
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sahin
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loweryster
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I've talked to ATI about this. What I know is that it's not upgradable for future module releases, for instance you can't upgrade to the latest module with less LEDs in it.
wheelman76
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Is there a newer version with different (less) LEDs?
wheelman76
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This is a quote from the German website.
"Exchangeable LED-Clusters: The LED technology will evolve in the next few years, with ATI exchangeable LED Clusters, you are able to change clusters in future against the latest technology to benefit from further LED development."
But I guess we don't get the same option.
"Exchangeable LED-Clusters: The LED technology will evolve in the next few years, with ATI exchangeable LED Clusters, you are able to change clusters in future against the latest technology to benefit from further LED development."
But I guess we don't get the same option.
wheelman76
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Do you happen to know why they changed it ? And what the differences are?
They just changed to more readily available LEDs no performance changes.
rtparty
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Directly from Oliver:
" We always try to give our customers the latest stand in technology. It is our goal*to use the*best and most efficient LEDs in the market. That is the reason why it is so important that LED Clusters are exchangable. In this way people are able to upgrade their LEDs if they want to do this. So people will be able to upgrade their current Hybrid if they want to do this."
" We always try to give our customers the latest stand in technology. It is our goal*to use the*best and most efficient LEDs in the market. That is the reason why it is so important that LED Clusters are exchangable. In this way people are able to upgrade their LEDs if they want to do this. So people will be able to upgrade their current Hybrid if they want to do this."
rtparty
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Quite a few pages back we went over all of this and the reasons why ATI changed.
The fixtures became more efficient with new LEDs.
sahin
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This is a very positive feature to have. In no way does it mean you MUST upgrade, but an option for those who choose to upgrade.
It also means that in the unlikely event of diodes becoming faulty after the warranty period, you are not left with a faulty product. You at least have the option to purchase a new cluster and easily replace without even having to send your whole unit to for repair.
All very useful advantages built into the fixture.
rtparty
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Now if we could just add another LED module to the 24" fixture!
sahin
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Having modified the ATI Sunpower, and running at first 48watts through it, and then 24watts of LED plus 5x24watts of T5: I think the issue is maintaining a safe temperature on such a small unit. The extra heatsink lengths on the longer unit probably does make a difference.
Think of it this way: even in your 4 tube unit, that means heat from:
1. 4x24watt T5 tubes
2. Potential 75watts of LED's.
3. T5 Ballasts
That is in the region of 180watts of T5's, LED's and ballasts all of which must be kept cool. Despite what people say, T5's do generate a lot of heat (but over a greater area, not concentrated like MH).
I've measured the PAR at the ends on my 30" long tank and even with the fixture being 24", I get VERY good PAR on the ends.
What I would have liked for the 24" models is for the LED Cluster to be SPREAD out on a longer strip. But I suppose that means more costs for ATI to make separate cluster for the 24" model.
Overall, I am very happy with my unit.
EDIT: I also think having two 75w clusters on a 24" unit would have been overkill in terms of PAR, and would push cost up too much. Also, it would change the main feature of these unit from mainly T5 with LED supplement to the opposite.
Right, I knew it. But it seems that ATI is fooling its customers once again. I'm not very satisfied with this product nor the company itself. They have released to market an unfinished product with way lots of issues. Some of them:
- After a power failure, the controller loses the time, so when energy comes back it could follow an inversed photoperiod. Imagine you are out on hollidays.
- Controller easily goes crazy if you don't choose the right fixture when loading.
- Controller has got a keyboard that you should not use for lights programming, just to ser the time.
Just three examples, but there are many. Come on man, is this a german product?
- After a power failure, the controller loses the time, so when energy comes back it could follow an inversed photoperiod. Imagine you are out on hollidays.
- Controller easily goes crazy if you don't choose the right fixture when loading.
- Controller has got a keyboard that you should not use for lights programming, just to ser the time.
Just three examples, but there are many. Come on man, is this a german product?
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