Awesome Reef Livestock and supplier in NYS called FLLR finger lake live rock

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Seriously can we stop the personal attacks and debate all together and get back to what this thread was initially intended for. To inform people about positive or negative experiences with Finger lake live rock and those who work there. If you have nothing viable to input about this topic than stop posting in my thread. Start your own thread if you want to argue please. This thread should not be turning into some kind of virtual pi$$ing competition

Thank you
 
I like Turtles...


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Not sure if they have turtles or zombie kids there brandon but I would call and see if they can get one or 2 in from their wholesaler. Make sure you order brains also, Zombies can be finicky eaters when they are juveniles.
 
just a FYI:

a quick search of online sites selling ornamental marine fishes turned up some very interesting results for me just now.

4 out of 5 sites I just visited were extremely misleading. If you don't know exactly what to look for it would be very easy for someone to get ripped off.

The consumer is fairly assured a longstanding reputable LFS isn't going to pack up and move in the middle of the night or rip them off. The same cannot be said for virtual storefront and online businesses. I would think that especially in these times this is important.

Now, if Josh can get me a couple of hunderd dollars off of a Gem Tang I'm going to have to give him a ring!




(just kidding of course)

But this really does serve as an example. Not only is the retailer to consumer relationship important but so is the wholesaler to retailer (credibility) relationship... especially in these times.
 
Which is exactly what I am trying to uncover. Their creditability and reputation. Its hard to get feedback on those who ordered from them if they feel that posting any comment about their experiences will get them strung up and lynched. Not saying dont have an opinion about them I would really just like to know if perhaps this one is different from the rest. That is all Im asking is for a little hope and a lot of love.
 
Also, just want to clear up that at first I felt a bit attacked but I do understand where everyone is coming from. We have all had very good experiences with our LFSs and dont want them to go anywhere.

Those who understood what I was thinking and gave some support, I thank you.

"At first I was a lone wolf... Then I thought... could it be? several new wolves? now we are a wolf pack!"
 
Thanks for the feedback --- really.

And for the record.... I hope all of the LFS survive.
No where else can you find such a nice collection of shops.
10yrs ago I lived in Chicago... They have a huge fish society that gets together for swapping (fish that is) and auctioning fish.

Great area for interaction. Just to calibrate.... They dont have anything close to the collection of LFS that we have in Buffalo, Roch and Syracuse.

So if you feel lucky.... you should.
Lets hope they all stick around and support them when you can.
 
Could be me just being stupid but whats OP. I am not big on abbreviations

Yeah it can mean either Original Post or Original Poster thing. It's just a forum thing I guess. I'm part of dozens of forums and it's quicker to type...lol

Brandon, just make sure you don't get interviewed by anyone. I'm sure you'd reply the same answer as that kid...lol.
 
you said it, not me.

Please examine your previous posting history, "Jedi". Whenever a discussion comes up you stray off topic. You cannot voice a difference of opinion or your insights without resorting to personal attacks. You drop hints at who you are (or perhaps who you'd like us to believe that you are) so why don't you just come clean?

If you're deeply involved with the Ocean Connection website why bother to drop into the URS Forum on RC to shake things up and ask why we all can't get along :confused:

Whoa... this needs to back up a minute. Here is DBS's original comment relating to a Jedi, which was not a positive one. As far as I can see we have no member by DeepBlueSix's name on our OC site. Given this, I would either assume that he is a Star Wars fan as many people are or that he intended something else with that comment.

It's like the Master Jedi that however wise he was, still became "corrupted" that his way was the best and only way... He started thinking like a Sith in that everyone should listen to him in every case.
 
Not sure if they have turtles or zombie kids there brandon but I would call and see if they can get one or 2 in from their wholesaler. Make sure you order brains also, Zombies can be finicky eaters when they are juveniles.

I would only get my zombies at a LZS. I like to see them eating brains before I bring them home. Plus, one time I ordered them online and I got mummies instead. Sure mummies are awesome, but they're usually cursed.
 
Gary:

Qoute from you: "you said it, not me".

1st off- I just said what someone else won't ever admit. The reference there, was not directed at anyone but the person who picked up on it.

2nd- the reference to "Jedi", has nothing to do with the Ocean Connection or it's website.

I referenced Jedi's/Sith's (jokingly, lol) briefly in the post as a fantasy comparitive to the way some people "on here" think or treat others on here when it comes to all their "experience":

Agressively often, with the snide, sarcastic, or other elitest type commentary, which the replyer/poster (yourself) keeps carrying on almost argumentatively with "nubies" as you put it or others that are not "falling in line" with your opinion.

Something that a good hearted person would not do "when trying to help".
You may not agree, but it's all in the "delivery", and often yours is not all that nice of a way to go about doing it. Even when your advice could be positive. Maybe you should be copied from now on, on the commentary left to some "newcomers to you" on this site. Thank god your not a diplomat reying on your personal communication skills with "people".

It's ok for you to laugh at people :lmao: like aww_420, but you yourself don't like it if it's directed toward you!!???

Again, if Stephen(Jedi Stephen) who's not involved with this conversation at all, ever reads this- I want to make it clear for everyone that "jedi" in the post had nothing to do with him. Stephen is a great guy and I've worked with him before. I sold him some things that he is using in his shop the OC. (Including the frag "Chest" tank).

It's not my fault if Gary in his haste to reply back on a negative level again,
has the OC mixed up in this at all. I have not even browsed the OC website at all before.

As far as who I am. I've stated enough in my brief "details". The rest is private as well as my choice who I may disclose it to. I was briefly in the public spotlight at one point. My real name is Rich. I used to go by "Ricky" back then. I am a hobbyist, like many other people on here.
Amongst being into Sci-fi/Fantasy and MUSIC. I've been keeping fish for over 20 years and I'm enjoying Reef now.

My apologies to Aww_420 since this got out of hand apparently. I am skeptical still of FLLR myself, however I was just trying to defend his(Aww's) position in this case. I felt he had a right to share his experience without being "bashed" as Roc has said.

Gary: you will say he wasn't being.. But you should really check your "Delivery of Commentary" within some of your post replys to people. Laughing(which you don't like) as well as the wording which comes accross as inflamatory to some people. 'An it's done on purpose, so don't bother saying it's not. Truly wise people don't have to slam it down others throats, and use wise crack comments. Regardless how many good corals you provide to fellow hobbyists and how well liked you are. You still make yourself come accross and appear like a %&^! at times. :mad:

So personal attacks= GOODBYE....

But somehow I don't think this will be the last time Mr. GM makes a comment that irritates some people. Sorry about that guys... :sad1:
 
DreaminMel,

My apologies if this caused some sort of problem (The Jedi comment).

My THANKS to YOU for clearing it up for another person that was too ignorant to "read" correctly and see where I was going with it.

A comparitive to peoples "attitudes" towards others combined with their "knowledge".
 
Funny how I get the immediate PM from this site to let me know I got dragged into a debate.. and I had nothing to do with it.

Thanks for taking a second to clear it up...

I do not allow bashing on my site and would not tolerate it from one of my members. I would quickly put it to rest.
I have enjoyed this thread and look forward to many more here at URS.
Jedi
 
No worries. :)

I really do love the combination of personalities on this site and have known quite a few of the members here for many years. I hope that everyone can take a second, breathe and tone things down. When tempers flare around here long term rifts seem to occurr and it is not a pleasant thing to watch. We are all afflicted with the same addiction afterall... and obviously passionate about it. ;)
 
And to think, some have asked me why I do not post more.....

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I have had terrible experiences at "elite" stores, and good experiences at "bad" stores, but most of the time one experience does not make me think "I will never go back or use them again". I bump into people all the time in the Buffalo Area who have something to say regarding just about any store, and I am reminded of something my mother told me - if you don't have something nice to say.....

Anywho...this has been entertaining to say the least, although I know it was meant to be informative. Too bad.
 
Wow

Wow

This thread gets to 3 pages in less then 24 hours and my build thread of me asking questions and trying to figure things out takes weeks. F&$@ed up!
 
All of a sudden I remember why I stopped posting on URS :hmm5: Too much drama :lmao:

Anyway I have done these "guy who has a wholesaler license" deals in the past and it worked out once and the other time it didn't. The time it didn't work out I got a clam without a foot, ugly looking fish, etc. The time it did work out a got a really nice wrasse for a great price.

I appreciate the feedback about FLLR aww_420. It is always good to hear peoples opinions on new places to shop. I guess the thing is with a deal like FLLR is you have to first have a quarantine tank of your own! Second you have to be willing to take a risk. In other words don't buy $500 dollars of stuff from Josh on your first go around. Get something small and see how it works out. Post your experience here, good or bad, and go from there. There is always a risk when you are trying to get a deal that is too good to be true.

I think what Gary is trying to say is if you keep buying stuff direct from a wholesaler (or a middle man like Josh) you will at best break even. He may be right I don't know. I would say based on my experience I about broke even. It's a gamble. Until the guy has a store front or a legitimate website with WYSIWYG items and a good reputation (which he doesn't) its a gamble.

Lastly based on the website I would advise caution. This guy is obviously just getting started. I am not against the american dream. I am just thinking you better be cautious. :beer:
 
Thats the unfortunate part about discussion forums everyone has different tempers different ideas and everyone is passionate about them and no one seems to let things go. but still 99% of the time its all good
 
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