I have heard that the b ionic does not have mg and it to me made sense I was using it for a while and had a hard time keeping my alk consistent. Switched to kent reef fusion which I have read has other essential elements and my alk has been dead on the money ever since. I am not saying it is true just what I heard and I am relatively new in learning about cal and alk additives. Any one heard this before? Thanks
B-ionic in SPS coral systems
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Peter Eichler
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Gotta love the marketing nonsense in this hobby and the fun things that result from a lack of anyone regulating the claims that are made...
My favorite claim in recent years is still the Kalk+2 magnesium nonsense from Chris Brightwell. That alone is reason enough to never trust a supplement company (probably especially Kent and Brightwell) and their claims. If you guys want to believe there's other special stuff/ingredients in B ionic or any other commericla two part, then knock yourselves out. By maybe at least have ESV tell you what those ingredients are. For all I can tell it's simply the naturally occuring impurities in calcium chloride and sodium bicarbonte/carbonate
My favorite claim in recent years is still the Kalk+2 magnesium nonsense from Chris Brightwell. That alone is reason enough to never trust a supplement company (probably especially Kent and Brightwell) and their claims. If you guys want to believe there's other special stuff/ingredients in B ionic or any other commericla two part, then knock yourselves out. By maybe at least have ESV tell you what those ingredients are. For all I can tell it's simply the naturally occuring impurities in calcium chloride and sodium bicarbonte/carbonate
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Peter Eichler
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The secrecy surrounding what those extra things might be and in what concentration they occur. It's quite common in the hobby to put some positive spin on impurities since they can just call them trace or minor elements.
Peter Eichler
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Yes, you should believe the people that are trying to sell you a bottle of baking soda and water for $20 instead of me and Gary that are simply trying to help and have nothing to gain regardless of what you buy. :headwalls::facepalm:
Peter Eichler
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Good luck with your return to the hobby...
Andyf30
Member
Ah we find another guy talking down to people in his natural habitat: the internet. This is a discussion forum and op asked for opinions. None of us are selling him a product. We are simply stating that we prefer B-Ionic, and sharing our experiences and observations. You can have your opinion Pete, we can have ours.
Good luck with your career in telekinetic chemistry. Peter Eichler, E.S.P.
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
funny how you picked on Peter but didn't question what Steve posted about Greg Hiller
There is a good reason ESV sells a (separate) liquid magnesium supplement.
This question about B-ionic's ingredients isn't new. Concentration differences aside, claims based on anecdotal observations are all we have to go on when it comes to B-Ionic.
If you feel that BRS supplements cause your corals to STN, RTN or lose color I guess you're just gonna have to pay the piper named ESV
Hammerleaf
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Where can you but 5 gallon buckets? I can only find the 1 gallon parts online.
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
what does it say?
essentially impurities
ESV is more concentrated than the DIY recipes. That's the main difference.
ESV B-ionic is basically just a brand name slapped on the same stuff.
Ditto with calcium hydroxide. ESV and BRS both sell it. Any perceived differences are just that.
Sorry Gary, you are wrong. Yes, both are 2-parts, but the source for both two parts is different. Yes, some of the "extras" are impurities, but not all impurities can be considered beneficial
You do also know who Galleon is don't you? Check the forum at the secret place, you'll figure out who he is rather quickly.
