Bubble blaster vs Askoll pumps?
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tangtang clown
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The big union that came with the BB3000 is 3/4ID so you also are using a 3/4" tee. I am sure that we have the same fittings and if your tee is sliding right into the big union, then it can't be 1". I will take some pics of mine and post em.
tangtang clown
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plancton
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It finally arrived, the packaging is good, octopus products are good quality I insist.
The size
And I hooked it up to my ASM G3, I thought it was going to explode because the plastic on the ASM G3 is thin and cheap but to my surprise the pump draws more air than water.
I have low bioload on my 220 gal, but in one day it pulled this much:
Its twice the ammount I get with the Sedra pump that came with the ASM G3. Plus the skimmate is really nasty.
The size
And I hooked it up to my ASM G3, I thought it was going to explode because the plastic on the ASM G3 is thin and cheap but to my surprise the pump draws more air than water.
I have low bioload on my 220 gal, but in one day it pulled this much:
Its twice the ammount I get with the Sedra pump that came with the ASM G3. Plus the skimmate is really nasty.
tpenn187
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FWIW, i just hooked up my bb-5000 up to my octo extreme 250, and i am getting about 63 scfh. not as much as i would have liked but it seems that the smaller input diameter is really restricting the amount of flow that it has. the union that it was designed to work with has a diameter of about 1 11/16" which would put the inner diameter about 1.5 inches. even though this is only about a 15 scfh increase over 2 sicces with the standard pinwheel, my water level dropped about 5 inches in the body, keep in mind i have the cone transition model. i still need to dial it in but i will check the air draw later on next week to see if it is effected. any idea what the water line in the sump should be at with this combo?
tangtang clown
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Plancton, do you have any pics of the body with it running?
Penn, have any pics?
Penn, have any pics?
doublejesus
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i was thinking of getting a bb3000 for my extreme 200, would you recommend hooking the sicce and the bb up? that looks cool at the very least haha
tangtang clown
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dj, I had my sicce and 3000 hooked up together using I tee and I wasn't overly impressed. I would like to find a 3/4" wye and use that. I just unhooked the sicce and I am running only the 3000 and it looks more tame. I think both were a bit much for the 200 body. When I dumped some skimmate into my sump with both pumps hooked up, it skimmed it out in less than one minute. Either you will be fine. I am still trying to learn more about how the 5000 and the 200 matchup together. I get between 30-35scfh with the 3000 on the 200 and tpenn posted 63scfh on the 200. The reason these numbers are less than stated is that the inlet to the skimmer is only 3/4".
plancton
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The water level in my sump is 10", the ASM G3 is touching the bottom but I had to use an eggcrate platform to raise the BB 5000 to the same level of the hole on the ASM´s body.
As you can see from the pic, the body of the BB 5000 is raising 1" above the water, and the inlet rests barely submerged.
The water level in the skimmers body also decreased a bit, I think it has to do with the fact that it draws more air than water.
I called the LFS guy who´s gonna make the alpha cone 250 replica and told him about this, I really don´t know what the difference is with the original red dragon and as far as I know the Laguna askoll is the same.
I asked him if it would work on a large alpha cone 250 and he said yes, he said the outlet tube of the skimmer only needs to be adjusted to the pump and that it will do the job.
As you can see from the pic, the body of the BB 5000 is raising 1" above the water, and the inlet rests barely submerged.
The water level in the skimmers body also decreased a bit, I think it has to do with the fact that it draws more air than water.
I called the LFS guy who´s gonna make the alpha cone 250 replica and told him about this, I really don´t know what the difference is with the original red dragon and as far as I know the Laguna askoll is the same.
I asked him if it would work on a large alpha cone 250 and he said yes, he said the outlet tube of the skimmer only needs to be adjusted to the pump and that it will do the job.
hammmerhead
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The water level in my sump is 10", the ASM G3 is touching the bottom but I had to use an eggcrate platform to raise the BB 5000 to the same level of the hole on the ASM´s body.
As you can see from the pic, the body of the BB 5000 is raising 1" above the water, and the inlet rests barely submerged.
The water level in the skimmers body also decreased a bit, I think it has to do with the fact that it draws more air than water.
I called the LFS guy who´s gonna make the alpha cone 250 replica and told him about this, I really don´t know what the difference is with the original red dragon and as far as I know the Laguna askoll is the same.
I asked him if it would work on a large alpha cone 250 and he said yes, he said the outlet tube of the skimmer only needs to be adjusted to the pump and that it will do the job.
The pump should be deeper than that if the ASM you are using can handle it. You are probably losing 25% of the max SCFH with that pump and skimmer combo running the water level that low.
Rysam
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I just got my BB3000 in the mail today and hooked it up to the octo pro 250 and man this thing rocks. Visually waay better than the skimrite joke pump it came with. I dont have a dwyer meter but I have an eyeballometer that works good enough. Im happy for sure!
All that was required to make them fit together was a reducer bushing from 1" to 3/4". I dremeled the bushing at an angle between the union and the pipe and then sanded it to make it smoother, Now its a nice smooth transition between the 1" and 3/4. I am also using thin wall pipe. Its sitting in about 10" of water.
All that was required to make them fit together was a reducer bushing from 1" to 3/4". I dremeled the bushing at an angle between the union and the pipe and then sanded it to make it smoother, Now its a nice smooth transition between the 1" and 3/4. I am also using thin wall pipe. Its sitting in about 10" of water.
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tangtang clown
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Rysam, what fitting is on the skimmer body?
Mr. Leee, what does it look like under your bubble plate? When I had both pumps running, it was pretty "wild". I have the 3000 hooked up solo and the bubbles in the body fill the entire skimmer from the neck to just below the top of the bubble plate.
Mr. Leee, what does it look like under your bubble plate? When I had both pumps running, it was pretty "wild". I have the 3000 hooked up solo and the bubbles in the body fill the entire skimmer from the neck to just below the top of the bubble plate.
Rysam
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scratch that "happy for sure" comment posted earlier. Im kinda thinking that this pump i have here has issues.
I hooked it up about 1 pm today and have had nothing but trouble from it. i cant keep a consistent water level in the skimmer and have overflowed the cup at least a dozen times,killing a timer in the process. If I plug the air with my finger the pump seems to run beautiful, as soon as it gets air the impeller starts rattling and vibrating, and makes a noise similar to a busted impeller sound. I pulled it apart, to look which i shouldnt have to do on a 6 hr old pump, and there is nothing obviously wrong.
Im lost, I dont know where to go with this,any ideas??
Edit: i started a thread about this.
I hooked it up about 1 pm today and have had nothing but trouble from it. i cant keep a consistent water level in the skimmer and have overflowed the cup at least a dozen times,killing a timer in the process. If I plug the air with my finger the pump seems to run beautiful, as soon as it gets air the impeller starts rattling and vibrating, and makes a noise similar to a busted impeller sound. I pulled it apart, to look which i shouldnt have to do on a 6 hr old pump, and there is nothing obviously wrong.
Im lost, I dont know where to go with this,any ideas??
Edit: i started a thread about this.
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