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Caribfan, are you feeding frozen? I can't imagine grating fresh clam. Lol. Slimy mess. I am feeding whole opened live clams. My angels love them but the butterflies are just swimming around picking at this and that on the rocks. Clearly they have an interest in food but not enough so to try anything I've offered.

Hey Arringar,

Derek is correct, I almost exclusively feed the Larry's Reef Services foods, which are a frozen blend of what I think is probably the best all round food on the market. I do occasionally feed PE Mysis, frozen clams on the half shell and Julian Sprung Sea Veggies.

In regards to grating/shredding, I don't typically do that with the clams. If I feed shrimp, which I try to get fresh and unfrozen, never cooked, I like to grate that...and it is a slimy mess.

I'm going to assume that since you mentioned that your butterflies are swimming around with other fish (angels - which ones out of curiosity), that you didn't quarantine them. Everybody has their own philosophy on quarantine vs. not, but in this case, I would probably recommend seperating these fish so that they don't feel pressure from other fish when trying to eat.

In regards to my Altivelis and Collare, up until a couple weeks ago, I was pretty much expecting to lose them. Their appetites weren't where they needed to be, and if I had introduced them into my DT, regardless of disease issues, they just simply wouldn't have been able to compete for food. I'm happy to report now, that because of the quarantine period, I expect to introduce them into the DT in the next month or so.

I use quarantine for preventative treatment of disease, but also for acclimating a fish to captivity and training them to eat and recognize me as the food source. With these two new butterflies, it's taken way longer than expected.
 
Matt, I'm happy to hear that the Coradion and others are doing well. I was afraid to ask because there was silence for a long time and it might have been a different outcome.


Hey Arringar,

Derek is correct, I almost exclusively feed the Larry's Reef Services foods, which are a frozen blend of what I think is probably the best all round food on the market. I do occasionally feed PE Mysis, frozen clams on the half shell and Julian Sprung Sea Veggies.

In regards to grating/shredding, I don't typically do that with the clams. If I feed shrimp, which I try to get fresh and unfrozen, never cooked, I like to grate that...and it is a slimy mess.

I'm going to assume that since you mentioned that your butterflies are swimming around with other fish (angels - which ones out of curiosity), that you didn't quarantine them. Everybody has their own philosophy on quarantine vs. not, but in this case, I would probably recommend seperating these fish so that they don't feel pressure from other fish when trying to eat.

In regards to my Altivelis and Collare, up until a couple weeks ago, I was pretty much expecting to lose them. Their appetites weren't where they needed to be, and if I had introduced them into my DT, regardless of disease issues, they just simply wouldn't have been able to compete for food. I'm happy to report now, that because of the quarantine period, I expect to introduce them into the DT in the next month or so.

I use quarantine for preventative treatment of disease, but also for acclimating a fish to captivity and training them to eat and recognize me as the food source. With these two new butterflies, it's taken way longer than expected.
 
Figure it's time for a quick update. Work's been busy lately, but things have progressed better than I expected, particularly in the past week with the Altivelis and Collare. Both fish are now eating from the water column and from the bottom of the tank, though still not well enough to compete in the DT.

I'm convinced they are both still dealing with some kind of parasite too. They have been through one round of prazi and I just started the second tonight. They both have occasional head shaking and the Altivelis has a few larger white spots, one on it's body and a couple of the pelvic fins.

Mr. Puff has been removed from the DT :sad2: , but is doing well in the quarantine tank. The wound has completely healed over, but the black color has not returned, which is what happened last time.

The Multifasciatus....still in quarantine is doing quite well. This little fish honestly appears to be bullet proof, but for some reason, i'm scared to death to start the cupramine treatment. I plan to start that in a week because I really want to add this little guy to my DT.

Think that's it for now.







 
Did they go thru cupramine? Sorry to hear that we both are dealing with twitchy fish. Do the spots fall off after 7 days?

I also see an engineer goby in the background



Figure it's time for a quick update. Work's been busy lately, but things have progressed better than I expected, particularly in the past week with the Altivelis and Collare. Both fish are now eating from the water column and from the bottom of the tank, though still not well enough to compete in the DT.

I'm convinced they are both still dealing with some kind of parasite too. They have been through one round of prazi and I just started the second tonight. They both have occasional head shaking and the Altivelis has a few larger white spots, one on it's body and a couple of the pelvic fins.

Mr. Puff has been removed from the DT :sad2: , but is doing well in the quarantine tank. The wound has completely healed over, but the black color has not returned, which is what happened last time.

The Multifasciatus....still in quarantine is doing quite well. This little fish honestly appears to be bullet proof, but for some reason, i'm scared to death to start the cupramine treatment. I plan to start that in a week because I really want to add this little guy to my DT.

Think that's it for now.







 
Not been through the cupramine yet, plan to do that asap. Haven't seen anything fall off, but I typically don't anyway.

The engineer goby is for my brother in law. Which fish do you have that's twitching?
 
I only have one fish, the red sea bannerfish.

It has started eating in the day time now, where it used to only eat at night.
In fact it just snapped out of a hunger strike like your Coradion.
It still has the one spot on the pectoral but I don't see much twitching for now anyways.

It ate pellets this afternoon and I was really glad.


Not been through the cupramine yet, plan to do that asap. Haven't seen anything fall off, but I typically don't anyway.

The engineer goby is for my brother in law. Which fish do you have that's twitching?
 
Thanks Ted, believe it or not, the pics of the coradion and collare are just iphone pics.

The earlier photos are with a DSLR, but it's got some focus issues. I have a photographer friend that usually helps me set up my camera, but I take pictures so infrequently that I always have to call him to remind me how to set it up.
 
I know that lympho is more cauliflower shaped. The spot looks more like ich.

I moved it back into quarantine when it went on a hunger strike and started twitching. There is no medication.
I'm letting him stay there until that spot goes away.

Based on the appearance and symptoms, I believe your coradion has the same issue as my bannerfish.




The spot could be lympho, are you familiar with that disease?

Is your banner fish still in Quarantine?
 
I know that lympho is more cauliflower shaped. The spot looks more like ich.

I moved it back into quarantine when it went on a hunger strike and started twitching. There is no medication.
I'm letting him stay there until that spot goes away.

Based on the appearance and symptoms, I believe your coradion has the same issue as my bannerfish.

Wonderful...

So what is your diagnosis? Did Cupramine not take care of it? When I treated with prazi a couple days ago, it did not have an effect on the white spots.

I'm going to do a water change sunday, and put my skimmer back on and start cupramine on Monday. We'll see if that knocks it out.
 
Crappy iphone pics from this morning. Group Shots. Blurry blurry blurry.

Intersting note, I was making arrangements to rehome my large regal up until a couple weeks ago. He never really ate well in my DT, even though he had a good appetite in my QT.

Turns out, if I hold the food in my hand, he eats ravenously. Appparently he doesn't like picking food out of the water column or off the bottom of the tank. Also, side note, it is surprisingly painful when he misses the chunk of LRS food i'm holding.







 
Crappy iphone pics from this morning. Group Shots. Blurry blurry blurry.

Intersting note, I was making arrangements to rehome my large regal up until a couple weeks ago. He never really ate well in my DT, even though he had a good appetite in my QT.

Turns out, if I hold the food in my hand, he eats ravenously. Appparently he doesn't like picking food out of the water column or off the bottom of the tank. Also, side note, it is surprisingly painful when he misses the chunk of LRS food i'm holding.








What do you mean, you don't like that ripping motion angels do with their mouths?!:eek1: To think you were going to rehome the Regal when all she wanted was some pampering...
 
I believe my Achilles tang has become a member of Isis.

A few weeks ago, I went out of town and the tank sitter (wife) didn't feed it as often as I would have liked. Result, Achilles tang now terrorizes my Rainfordi Butterfly.

No clue why the rainfordi, but that is most definitely his target. The mirror trick is helping, but it's effects are begining to wear off. Goes to show how important it is to have well fed fish.
 
I come home to very aggressive fish after being out of town too. Not sure what it is... my fish aren't skinny when I get back :)
 
I have noticed the same...
Even after being away for only one full day...shows how they really are imprinted to us, our routines, and mannerisms...
 
I have noticed the same...
Even after being away for only one full day...shows how they really are imprinted to us, our routines, and mannerisms...

The whole tank was all screwed up. I put the mirror up and that seemed to take care of the achilles, but then my two pyramids started going at each other, which I have never seen before.

The big Regal had started chasing the Rainfordi too. I think things are on their way back to normal.

I need to add some additional flow, no proof of this, but I think it helps. Been torn between the Gyre and the MP40's. I love the programmability of the MP40s and it would pair nicely with my radions, but the gyre seems like a great deal.
 
Here's a quick iPhone feeding video I took this morning.

My tank is not as blue as the videos always seem to come out.

 
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