closed tight inverted gig mouth

Conrad25

Conrad25

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So I'm trying to figure out what's going on with my purple s gig anemone. His mouth has been this way now for a couple weeks and it looks sort of like a mushroom shape and it inflates normal under lighting and shrinks a little at night like usual. So what could be going on? All params check out great and everything else in the tanks are good. I have not added anything and have had this nem for two years now. Anyone seen this before?

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Wow, that's odd. Is it always like that, or does the size change at all? Mine looks like the third photo when I add food to the tank. I think it's a feeding response, but it looks like yours is stuck like that.
 
The size really doesn't change. It indeed is very odd to me. I just can't figure it out. The third picture I took a couple hours after lights out. Than took the two top pictures today when the lights were on. It never has changed in the last couple of weeks and I just can't figure out what the deal with it is as it doesn't seem to be losing color or anything weird, but it does look like a feeding response when its not feeding. Also the mouth is closed nice and tight which makes it all the stranger.. I hope that indicates its not a real problem and eventually goes back.
 
Well I haven't fed my Gigantea much in months as I figure it really doesn't need it since it catches food in the tank from feeding the fish. So not sure if that could be the issue, but has your haddoni stayed this way for weeks when that happens?
 
It ate my CBB and stay like that for weeks. Any of your fish missing or AWOL?

PS: I love to see your green Mag
 
Well its possible he ate a tiny goby fish I added a while back and haven't seen. But that thing was so small it would be like eating a small shrimp. Oh I forgot I need to take that mag out of my signature as I sold him as he started wandering too much for my liking I think due to the Gig a few months back.
 
I had a Phymanthus anemone that did this for months. It would suck it back in to feed, then after digestion it was right back out. The anemone would occasionally keep it in if I did numerous water changes, so in my case, it had something to do with my water. I never figured out exactly what the problem was, but it wasn't a normal parameter issue, as everything else did well, including Magnificas, BTAs, SPS, LPS, etc. And I tested NO3, PO4, SG, Alk, pH, temp - good or bad, didn't matter. But excessive water changes helped in my case.

What is your temp at? My temp runs high, around 81, and my WC water was usually around 74, so maybe a temp preference? Like I said, it's something about the water IMO...
 
Interesting observation Brad. I have my water right at 78 all day and night as I have been running LED's and T5's on my tanks, so the temps never change. I could try warming it up to 80 and than maybe slowly bring it down to 76 if I see no change. Now my water that I do water changes with is usual 80-82 degrees. But I dump that in my basement frag/second tank. So I'm pretty sure it doesn't feel the change upstairs at all since it goes through that tank and the sump. But I could try doing a massive water change like 40% as my water volume is 200G between the two tanks and sump so it would be higher to try a higher amount than that. Also could increase my carbon I run to see if it helps. I do have a huge mix of corals and everything else is happy including all the BTA's in the basement tank. Guess its time to try the basics. I do usually change 15% water change a week.
 
Conrad25 said:
Interesting observation Brad. I have my water right at 78 all day and night as I have been running LED's and T5's on my tanks, so the temps never change. I could try warming it up to 80 and than maybe slowly bring it down to 76 if I see no change. Now my water that I do water changes with is usual 80-82 degrees. But I dump that in my basement frag/second tank. So I'm pretty sure it doesn't feel the change upstairs at all since it goes through that tank and the sump. But I could try doing a massive water change like 40% as my water volume is 200G between the two tanks and sump so it would be higher to try a higher amount than that. Also could increase my carbon I run to see if it helps. I do have a huge mix of corals and everything else is happy including all the BTA's in the basement tank. Guess its time to try the basics. I do usually change 15% water change a week.
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Agreed. Bradley is definitely on to something. It reminded me of how my gig reacted after I removed my green toadstool. When the two were in my 120 gallon tank, my gig would always "reach" and have a very long column. Once I removed the toadstool it settled back down. It could be allelopathy between your gig and something else in the tank. Have their been any new additions?

Regarding temperature, my tank has been fluctuating lately, between 76-82 degrees. I know it's not good for the tank, but my gig doesn't seem to be affected. It's been cold lately, and my heater hasn't been able to keep the tank at 80. I removed the heater from my salt water mixing station, added to my DT and the temp in the tank went up to 82. Thinking I could put the heater back where it was since the weather was warming up, the tank went down to 76 on a cold day.
 
Yeah I'm going to try a couple of temps and water changes. I haven't added any corals in a while or anything. I also removed my huge devils hand a while back due to the reaching column deal as my carpet really wanted to kill it lol. I also am going to have some halides at my disposal soon, so if it doesn't change I may put halides back on my DT as I just think they are better than the LEDS I changed to a year ago personally. I also have the basement temps problem, so I ended up having a couple more heaters added to stabilize my tanks.
 
It's not the same species of Stichodactyla, but I have a maxi-mini that always has a bubble like that near its mouth. It eats and inflates and otherwise behaves normally.
 
No change yet. I did about.100g of water changes with two water changes. Any ideas? It kind.of.looks.like its trying.to rip his.mouth to.be bigger. It had a mouth I can see under the couple skin pieces. Should I help it I wonder?
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Did either of you try to move the anemone prior to this problem?

IMHO This is most likely due to a torn primary septa. The anemone simply can't pull the tissue back down to where it should be. If the tare is small and can heal, then you're golden. If the tare is beyond repair, the anemone may remain that way indefinitely. I don't believe this is typically life threatening though.

Again This is just my opinion. I'm not willing to dissect one of these animals just to find out.
 
Interesting EC. I appreciate the information. I haven't moved mine at all and flow never changed. I hope it eventually heals. All else in the tank is doing well. I will have to read up on the septa if I can find any literature at all on this.
 
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