I picked one up a little over a week ago, the first day or so he would just kind of look at food but would not eat (I was feeling live blackworms). However on the second day )if I remember right) he started eating a little, a bit tentatively. I gave him some live brine which he also ate. At this point he is eating live blackworms, live brine, frozen brine and some mysis although he is not as thrilled with the mysis as the brine (I think if tends to be a little too big a lot of spitting out and the grabbing the food again). I am happy to say that he seems to be gaining weight and looking good. Now if I can just get him onto something dry that would be great so I can setup the autofeeder for when I go away. I did throw a few flakes and they were tasted, however I am not sure that he was overly thrilled.
Copperband Butterfly Primer
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bigworm175
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Well, after a month my CBB has settled in very well now. The yellow tang and he now swim around like buddies with no visible aggression. After a week of timid eating he now not only eats live black worms and frozen mysis like a pig but he attacks the veggie clip and eats some of the nori?? As was mentioned I think all fish are different and yellow tangs and CBBs can certainly get along in at least some cases. It probably helps that he is slightly larger than any other fish in the tank.
I also have a purple pseudochromis that has never bothered my cleaner shrimp which I was warned about. That being said, I guess things can change and it only takes a bad day to have a murder in the tank. Fingers still crossed.
I also have a purple pseudochromis that has never bothered my cleaner shrimp which I was warned about. That being said, I guess things can change and it only takes a bad day to have a murder in the tank. Fingers still crossed.
falconut
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I've had my Copperband for 4 months now. She's doing great. She eats as much of the frozen mysis or brine that she can pick from the water before they're all gone. Plus, her favorite is the live blackworms. I had made a feeder, but she took to eatting from my hand so quickly, I don't use it anymore. Once a day, I feed pinches of the worms. Most of my fish will now eat from my hand. I just stick the tips of my fingers in the water with the worms between them and they go nuts.
I seam to have a mellow Yellow Tang. I've had him for 4 years now and he bothers nothing. Never bothered the CBB.
I think the key is to find one that really eats well at the LFS. Not just eatting, but eating with gusto. It should be worth the wait.
I seam to have a mellow Yellow Tang. I've had him for 4 years now and he bothers nothing. Never bothered the CBB.
I think the key is to find one that really eats well at the LFS. Not just eatting, but eating with gusto. It should be worth the wait.
bigworm175
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Mine doesn't touch my zoa garden or any other corals. He did, however. clear my tank of feather dusters.
lemonhead1980
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about 4 years ago i worked in lfs maintain reef and fish systems. we got a shipment of livestock with 3 cbbs about 2". i put each of the fish into seperate tanks on one small sys with fuges, uv, cleaner shrimp in each tank, and some aptasia. all did very well in about a week had them eating mysis shrimp and brine shrimp. i bought the one that ate the most of those annoying aptasia and kept it in my 180 the multi fuges and feed the fish well. it wiped out the aptasia in no time and never touch the corals, of course all small feather dusters got wiped out any interesting ones i moved to another tank. but about two weeks ago the fish started actin strange and wouldn't eat and this is a fish that was always 1st to eat. the fish died in a day. i don't know the life time in the wild, but i enjoyed that fish and i will try another. i kept the cbb with tangs , smaller wrasse, gobies, anthis, and fox face.
bigworm175
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The CBB now eats nori out of the clip intended for the tangs. Is that normal of is he just a big pig??
kev apsley
In Memoriam
for the finicky chelmon rostratus try live brine shrimp, worked like a charm fro me after trying just about every other food imaginable
vt_snowman87
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anybody had experiences with CCB with RBTAs? are they anemones-safe?
Saltfun2003
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I have always wanted one of these read through his hole thread a few times. About 1 in every 15 times i go to the local fish stores do they accully have one and 90% of the time. When they do have one it looks sickly. I found this little guy they said he was only eating live brine which i watched them feed him. He looked real healty and only one i have ever seen eating in a lfs. I picked him up a few days ago and have been mixing frozen myiss in with the live brine. He is now starting to eat a little bit of the frozen foods hope i can wing him all the way over. I built a feed drilled out a hole in a rock inserted 1 inch pvc with a cap and drilled holes in it. Waiting for epoxy to dry before i try it out. For those of you that have made a feeder of your cbb what size hole did you make.
Here is a pic of him probly would have helped if i cleaned the glass first =P out of 50 this one was the best.
Here is a pic of him probly would have helped if i cleaned the glass first =P out of 50 this one was the best.
kev apsley
In Memoriam
anybody know the collection practices on cbb? cyanide, dynamite?
John&Steph
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I keep one in my tank they do wonders for antiplasia. It is the only fish I have had a hard time with. Here is my most recent. He is lost and I cannot find him anywhere.
I have tried a couple of times to keep them. But they seem to be timid and not eat readily. I have a reef that is very healthy so you would think not a problem. I have not lost a fish in two years except for the copperbands I tried. I decided one more time and this time I bought a larger copperband about three inches. My previous failures where smaller ones. I also bought blood worms so I am not sure if it was the larger size or blood worms but whichever he is doing extemely well after one year. I have a mated pair of large clowns that go after him once in a while but he holds his own with his spiked dorsal fin which is a nice defense. I really think the blood worms keep him healthy. He has grown to about four inches. I only feed my fish frozen mysis one day and live bloodworms the next with some veggies for the tangs. They are all very happy and healthy so I guess this is a good combination.
Regards
Frank
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Frank
insane
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Last night I purchased my first CBB that is 4" for my 180g w/300lbs of LR and a helathy supply of pods, worms and aiptasia. I have read this entire thread and gained alot of useful information before I bought this fish. It is the only fish in my reef so I don't have to worry about stress from any other fish or competition for food. It almost immediately began picking at the rock. At the LFS it was in a small cubucle of about 12" x 12" x 8" with one live rock that looked almost sterile and this section was also used to house their hundred or so blue legged hermits.
It is not a timid fish and never runs into a cave when I approach the tank. I was hoping that this fish would clear out the aiptasia problem I have. I plan on trying to get it to feed on a varied diet multiple times a day starting with San Francisco Bay Brand Angel & Butterfly Diet which contains the following: Artemia Franciscana, mysis, krill, mussel, squid, spinach, sponge, spirulina algae, menhaden oil, sodium alginate, Vitamin premix: wheat flour, Vitamin A acetate, cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, folic acid, menadione sodium bisulfate complex, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, inositol, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, betaine, d-alpha mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E). I had seen this mentioned once in a previous post but would like to hear more thoughts on it.
I plan to also supplement with live blackworms and anything else I can readily get my hands on that it will eat. I am curious about the supplementing of oils into the diet. I saw the post about the mush with one ingredient being fish with the skin removed before blending. I might be wrong but wouldn't the skin be a source of some oil? I plan on trying the mackerel as well.
I have no problem feeding multiple varieties of foods at multiple times a day as I already do this everyday for our other 15 furred, feathered & scaled house pets using a great many different types of foods. I have a soft spot for special needs animals and the CBB seems to fit that bill.
I had no intention of having a CBB in my long range reef plan but am now rethinking things to fit in with this fish. My original plan was to have a few Heniochus diphreutes (Scooling Bannerfish) with a group of Apogon leptacanthus (Threadfin Cardinalfish). Now I am thinking just to drop the Bannerfish and go with the CBB and still adding the Cardinalfish. I want to keep things peaceful. Now that my plans have changed I will have to do further research to make sure further additions do not conflict with the CBB. The CBB will be well established in my DT long before I add anything else. This will be its' 180g.
I plan on making a PVC feeder today with the cap and plug method to try and train it to eat more than just what is on the rocks.
I would love to hear some suggestions for other fish that would do well housed with a CBB and maybe enjoy a similar human fed diet yet not induce any stress. Maybe something peaceful that easily spawns that would add to the CBB diet. A spawning fish wouldn't have to be pretty if it can contribute to the CBB diet.
TIA
It is not a timid fish and never runs into a cave when I approach the tank. I was hoping that this fish would clear out the aiptasia problem I have. I plan on trying to get it to feed on a varied diet multiple times a day starting with San Francisco Bay Brand Angel & Butterfly Diet which contains the following: Artemia Franciscana, mysis, krill, mussel, squid, spinach, sponge, spirulina algae, menhaden oil, sodium alginate, Vitamin premix: wheat flour, Vitamin A acetate, cholecalciferol (source of vitamin D3), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, folic acid, menadione sodium bisulfate complex, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, inositol, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, betaine, d-alpha mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E). I had seen this mentioned once in a previous post but would like to hear more thoughts on it.
I plan to also supplement with live blackworms and anything else I can readily get my hands on that it will eat. I am curious about the supplementing of oils into the diet. I saw the post about the mush with one ingredient being fish with the skin removed before blending. I might be wrong but wouldn't the skin be a source of some oil? I plan on trying the mackerel as well.
I have no problem feeding multiple varieties of foods at multiple times a day as I already do this everyday for our other 15 furred, feathered & scaled house pets using a great many different types of foods. I have a soft spot for special needs animals and the CBB seems to fit that bill.
I had no intention of having a CBB in my long range reef plan but am now rethinking things to fit in with this fish. My original plan was to have a few Heniochus diphreutes (Scooling Bannerfish) with a group of Apogon leptacanthus (Threadfin Cardinalfish). Now I am thinking just to drop the Bannerfish and go with the CBB and still adding the Cardinalfish. I want to keep things peaceful. Now that my plans have changed I will have to do further research to make sure further additions do not conflict with the CBB. The CBB will be well established in my DT long before I add anything else. This will be its' 180g.
I plan on making a PVC feeder today with the cap and plug method to try and train it to eat more than just what is on the rocks.
I would love to hear some suggestions for other fish that would do well housed with a CBB and maybe enjoy a similar human fed diet yet not induce any stress. Maybe something peaceful that easily spawns that would add to the CBB diet. A spawning fish wouldn't have to be pretty if it can contribute to the CBB diet.
TIA
carlosR
New member
O.K. today I pulled the trigger again and bought a copperband. He's a big one, at least 4-5". He has had several encounters of the aggresive kind with my coral beauty angelfish. The yellowtail damsels protect their territories when the copperband swims by also. The copperband seems not to mind and holds his/her own, not that I want an underwater version of UFC going on. The copperband has been nosing around on the live rock and maybe looking at various small bristle worms? I was furiously shoveling live blackworms near him but he doesn't seem too interested.
Tomorrow, assuming the copperband is still alive, I will go to the grocery store and buy a live clam or two. Also I am making a net feeding contraption or a canister one with holes. I think this fish is very interesting and quite the challenge. I want very much to succeed in keeping the copperband so thanks for all the great input. I'll keep you posted on my success or failure. I took great heart in the posting about obtaining a large fish and feeding live blackworms!
All the best and Happy New Year to you all.
Tomorrow, assuming the copperband is still alive, I will go to the grocery store and buy a live clam or two. Also I am making a net feeding contraption or a canister one with holes. I think this fish is very interesting and quite the challenge. I want very much to succeed in keeping the copperband so thanks for all the great input. I'll keep you posted on my success or failure. I took great heart in the posting about obtaining a large fish and feeding live blackworms!
All the best and Happy New Year to you all.
