Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - split

Hello,

Historically, I've been more of a forum consumer than a contributor, but this thread has encouraged me to at least post to request an update on this amazing reef system. I've received many great ideas from this thread, for both my current and future aquariums.

There has not been an meaningful update in several months. I think in keeping with Peter's original philosophy that this tank belongs to the community, we should be provided at least a photo update so that we can continue to enjoy the beauty of this aquarium.

I'd love to see an update on the tanks and equipment that were added to the fish room, as Peter indicated back in early March. I believe this was to be a coral acclimation and fragging system. I believe seeing how you implemented this type of setup will be beneficial for many of us in the community, as coral propagation is an integral part of the hobby and ensures wild corals are not over harvested for the aquarium industry.

Thanks in advance,

James
 
Well if you are trying to goad me into an update it might work just a little. I'm not sure how many factors have contributed to the scarcity in updates but here are a few.

My wife has not been well for about 16 months. It is not life threatening (she might argue otherwise) but it has required daily visits, seven days a week to a clinic for treatment which grabs a minimum of two hours out of the middle of each day. For a golfer, and I am officially the worlds 'worst' golfer it presents a real challenge to find the window to play 18 holes and still be home for dinner at the requisite time. I still try but with marginal success and certainly no benefit to my golf score!!! Notwithstanding Judy and the weather, I still try and get out twice a week as a goal.

Between Molly (my Shetland Sheepdog) and the aquarium there are another 2 hours minimum built into my daily routine which cannot be avoided.....ever, ever,ever.

Life does go on however and I can tell you that Jamie Grimm continues to work with me to maintain the system. He comes by twice a week to put in the most amazing four hour windows of effort to keep this aquatic environment in pristine condition. And it works well. I can have impromptu 'tours' for friends and members of the community without having to apologize for the condition of the tank because its always perfect. Jamie continues to be a great member of the team.

Mr. Wilson also continues to manage and support the overall health of the system. He is also here at least two if not three days a week on his way to and from the coral reef shop in Burlington. We try although no always successful to do a 100 gallon water change per week and have incorporated a similar routine for the two 180 gal coral frag tanks in the fish room as well. We take water chemistry tests twice a week and continue to value stable measurements very much.

Before I get into any event updates I should also mention that as far as the aquarium goes I have entered another phase in this build process as far as principles and best practices go.

I would describe the clock that I used to measure time with this system as that of a 'day trader' in the stock market with hourly checks and measurements on progress. I would, as many who followed this thread know, look daily for opportunities to improve on managing and caring for the life forms in this captive environment. And to a greater extent I think it worked reasonably well to get me where I am now. I have learned however that there are differences between what we hobbyists can hope to achieve with our captive coral reefs and perhaps what we aspire to achieve in comparison to our open ocean environments. They are NOT the same and they never will be. This is NOT a negative. It is NOT a criticism or sign of failure that we can't match the real thing it is just different. There are communities of life in our aquariums that we would never find together in the natural ocean environment. 'Adjusted life forms' as I call our inhabitants, acclimatize to our closed environments, no longer subject to the geologic time clock that their open ocean counterparts enjoy over the millennia. Although I haven't completely adjusted my sense of time I can say that I now realize that whatever clock is the best one to use in managing these lifeforms it has to have a huge dose of patience and tolerance to be effective.

I have observed that both captive raised fish as well as corals survive and thrive far far better in our captive environments than wild caught. This observation isn't pushing any environmental agenda its just a safe observation that my Bangaii Cardinals are far far healthier than any of the wild caught Cardinals I originally got to start the population in the beginning. Add to that same observation that coral colonies that have done well in the captive environment offer huge upsides to anyone starting their own colony from a frag from this community.

So much for my ranting..........

As most know by now there have been a few challenges over the past year that we have had to work through. The most well known was the Acro Eating Flatworm infestation that was very devastating to the coral. I was pretty convinced that I was going to lose everything. I had decided from the outset that I could not treat the display tank without damaging everything else. There is approx 70 feet of reef with SPS actively growing so there was no hope of isolating and of the damaged colonies. Someone on the thread had made the best observation on coping with this phenomena suggesting that the best strategy was to do everything to maintain a healthy environment for the coral and I am convinced now that they were right. I did not lose everything and the stuff that survived has thrived. I just have to be patient about the timeframe its going to take to fully recover the SPS population number I had before the whole thing started. I suspect also that the size of my tank had some positive effect as I can easily imagine that a smaller tank would be impossible to maintain any SPS without removal and treatment. I have learned a powerful lesson however. I had to change my practice for new coral introductions to maintain a minimum four to five week quarantine period just as I had been doing with my fish. All of the AEFW appropriate dips commonly available to hobbyists effectively kill the adult worms but do not kill the larvae. Since the larvae take a week or two to cycle to adults the coral must be dipped at least twice if not three times to be certain that no hitch hikers make it into the display. Trust me you cannot see these things easily as adults and its highly unlikely you will ever ever see the eggs.

I am leaving for another clinic visit so I will continue the dialog later..........

Peter
 
hope judy gets well soon
family is always atmost important
ive heard through the grapevine that your tank is on the mend,good news.

also just wondering if you ever did find hinges for the doors to keep them up.
I have seen some very well built hinges


vic
 
Peter, thank you for the detailed post. I wish your wife the best with her treatments and health. You definitely hit some strong points in your post. No matter how much we try, it is very different from the ocean.

I have learned however that there are differences between what we hobbyists can hope to achieve with our captive coral reefs and perhaps what we aspire to achieve in comparison to our open ocean environments. They are NOT the same and they never will be. This is NOT a negative. It is NOT a criticism or sign of failure that we can't match the real thing it is just different. There are communities of life in our aquariums that we would never find together in the natural ocean environment. 'Adjusted life forms' as I call our inhabitants, acclimatize to our closed environments, no longer subject to the geologic time clock that their open ocean counterparts enjoy over the millennia.

I have learned a powerful lesson however. I had to change my practice for new coral introductions to maintain a minimum four to five week quarantine period just as I had been doing with my fish. All of the AEFW appropriate dips commonly available to hobbyists effectively kill the adult worms but do not kill the larvae. Since the larvae take a week or two to cycle to adults the coral must be dipped at least twice if not three times to be certain that no hitch hikers make it into the display. Trust me you cannot see these things easily as adults and its highly unlikely you will ever ever see the eggs.
 
All the best to the better half! Your latest comments ring a familiar note, as I thing back about my previous reef and the current one. An elusive concept indeed :)
 
I am sorry to hear that the lady of the house is not well.......
I will keep her in our family's thought and prayers for a full recovery

glad to hear that the tank is on the rebound
I have been introducing some of your ideas into my sps dom tank build and will be doing more chemistry with the water as I am getting ready for another stage in my life to start here in Dayton. I have reread the entire build now 3 times and still am finding information that I had missed in previous readings.

The red mangrove forest that you have, have you seen a change in water conditions, have they been beneficial to the water chemistry, and if you had to do it all over again would you use them in your next build??????
 
Peter I pray that your wife will make a full recovery. If there is anything we can do to support you please let us know.

Scott
 
Peter I see you have redefined best practice, when it comes to the quarantine
I had to change my practice for new coral introductions to maintain a minimum four to five week quarantine period just as I had been doing with my fish
I believe you should have no more problems, but I also believe in backup plans or second lines of dependence. With your size tank and all the available live food that must be in there, You might think about adding a group of leopard wrasses. They are hard to get eating prepared food, but they are definitely the best wrasses to hunt down most small parasitic organisms that may get through your quarantine routine & it is quite possible there are still undesirable organisms lurking somewhere in your system.
 
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Wishing you and your wife the best. I think I speak for everyone that ranting is not a bad thing here especially all that you have done for this community.

Maybe I should give dude time to reply but i find it funny that he personally thought you should update the tank or changes and he hasn't even commented. As I said, keep doing what you do and all will be fine. Again I wish you and your family the best.
 
Thanks or the prompt reply Peter. The detail is much appreciated.

I am very sorry to hear about your wife and wish her a speedy recovery. My spouse has a series of health issues as well, so I'm certainly aware of the stress and challenges that come along with such things. Your priorities are in the right place.

So, has the Acro Eating Flatworm problem run its course in the tank? Are corals still showing signs of infection? Even if you quarantine new corals, won't your acro's still be exposed to the problem once they have been introduced to the main system?

Take care,
 
Nineball obviously has his hands full but if anyone has or knows what page the original picture of his tank is....the ones that has the neon lit underneath (or the video) could you please post it again...I have gone page after page and cant find it.....only about 300+ pages to look through....lol thanks
 
Sry I don't but his website is very well documented, organised and easy to navigate. I would be surprised if you can not find it there.
 
Peter sorry to hear about your wife, I am sure she will recoup fine.
On another subject, I will take it upon myself to get out and play golf enough for the both of us!
Here is a picture I posted in my build thread...me just letting the big dog eat!!
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:D :D

Corey
 
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