Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - split

Also, if you slip on ice and really hurt yourself badly, Canadians are less likely to point and laugh. :) (same goes for Americans, even those "incredibly rude New Yorkers" I was told about...they are really quite nice actually.)

:dance:

Wow, I am from NYC and now living in Ottawa. So into Canadian scenes:

poutine, moosehead, beaver's tail, le cordon bleu, lol

I'm now sadly shutting down my tank and packing up to leave

btw, usually we dont laugh but we really f**k or s**t when fallin flat on ice lol
 
I do not know if someone has mentioned this or if it's even helpful, but I saw this posted today.
"They are Yellow tail blue damsels. I keep them in almost every reef tank we install and service. In my experience with these I have learned that they are mildly aggressive but not to the point that they cause stress in the larger fish. The main benefit I have found is they are great flatworm assassins. I took over a reef tank that had red planaria flatworms everywhere. It was a 600 gallon reef with probably a million of the flatworms. I put 12 of these in there and the flatworms were completely eradicated in around 4 weeks.
Aqua Dave
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2202825&page=15
"
Hope things start to improve for the better : )
 
Peter I don't even remember when I last log in to Reef Central or had a conversation with you. Anyway I have never stopped thinking about you, Mr. Wilson or even your tank my friend.
Even I never met Judy in person hearing she hasn't been well makes me little sad but confident and trustful that she's got besides her a genuine companion and a remarkable friend that you are to many of us and she will get well. So talking about time is irrelevant if we have used it honorably.
I hope you all stay in good health and hope to see you soon.

All the best
Your friend Andy



P.S. I hope my words in English transmit exactly my good intentions and whishes.
 
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Peter, thank you for the timely, although somber update. My prayers go out to you and the wifey that she will pull through. I'm sure you will apply many times more care and dedication to her that you do to the reef.

Focus on her and then you can show us how well you and your team have been able to revive your awesome reef when the appropriate time comes.
 
Best thread ever

Best thread ever

Hi, Team nineball. I can't begin to put into words how great this thread is, it has taken me months to get thru this entire thread. I have learned so much I can not begin to express how great full I am to have taken this journey with you all. I even learned about MACNA from this thread and found out it was being held 45 min from my house. I had the pleasure of meeting Shaun aka mr Wilson and speaking to him for a short time at the orephek booth. After reading this thread it has even given me the confidence to buy a fish tank while at the show. It's a 120 gallon rimless tank. I hope to start my own build page and inspire lurkers to come out and post as your thread did along with so so much more. All the best to you team, your do Molly, and you wife Judy, and last but not least your massive fish tank that has inspired more people then you will ever know.
 
We bought the silicone hose from Venotec, makers of Abyzz.

2" flex hose fits over 50mm pipe and 1.5" fits over 40mm.

So I have an A200 and A100 on the way and am trying to figure out the plumbing.

I have ordered the silicone connectors from venotec but I don't know what sized plumbing to go with for the hard line.

The A200 has a 40mm output, so does that mean the silicone hose goes over the outside of the 1.5" pipe? Essentially can I plumb the system in 1.5" pipe size.

Thanks!

Scott
 
So I have an A200 and A100 on the way and am trying to figure out the plumbing.

I have ordered the silicone connectors from venotec but I don't know what sized plumbing to go with for the hard line.

The A200 has a 40mm output, so does that mean the silicone hose goes over the outside of the 1.5" pipe? Essentially can I plumb the system in 1.5" pipe size.

Thanks!

Scott

I've asked Mr. Wilson if he will respond to your question......he has been down this path before.............

Peter
 
So I have an A200 and A100 on the way and am trying to figure out the plumbing.

I have ordered the silicone connectors from venotec but I don't know what sized plumbing to go with for the hard line.

The A200 has a 40mm output, so does that mean the silicone hose goes over the outside of the 1.5" pipe? Essentially can I plumb the system in 1.5" pipe size.

Thanks!

Scott

Our Abyzz pumps have an influent hose that fits over a 2" PVC hose barb and an effluent that fits over a 1.5" PVC hose barb.

Silicone hose is great, but try to limit its use to short pieces for adapting metric to imperial plumbing and for stress relief.

 
Thank you very much Peter and Mr. Wilson. I have already ordered the silicone connection kit from Abyzz so I will just match the other end with a hose barb. Easy enough! Alexander just got back to me and told me the output side of the A100 is 25mm, or ~0.98".

Thank you once again!
Scott
 
Shawn, are those little hose sections or something special. do you have any issues with leaking with the hose barbs etc. I would think that quiets things down a bit too am I right about that??


thanks as always to both you and Peter:
p.s. Peter, I hope that the family health issues are going well and my best wishes go out to you and your family
 
Is anything supporting those pipes, the intake ones look to be slopping downward (possibly from weight of union valve), and the output maybe supported by whatever it's plugged into, otherwise it's squishing down on the silicone sleeve/pipe section.

Dave: Yeah the silicone reduces the vibration along the pipes reducing sound. Although those pumps (and most DC pumps) are very quiet as it is.
 
Shawn, are those little hose sections or something special. do you have any issues with leaking with the hose barbs etc. I would think that quiets things down a bit too am I right about that??


thanks as always to both you and Peter:
p.s. Peter, I hope that the family health issues are going well and my best wishes go out to you and your family

Silicone hose is the best you can get. It never gets brittle with UV, chemicals or corrosives (salt). The wall thickness on this stuff is thick enough that it doesn't collapse, and it doesn't pinch when it curves.

In a rough industrial environment, I still prefer nylon coated, braided PVC hose as the surface is resistant to cuts and abrasion. You also have to use wider pipe clamps with silicone hose to assure that it doesn't get cut by the edge of the clamp. We use Banjo brand all stainless clamps, and they are well worth the extra cost.

http://press.kscdirect.com/?p=4444

Always position the nuts on the top of the hose barb where it doesn't get dripped on and is easy to access. Silicone hose is extremely flexible so pump vibration is minimized/absorbed and if you ever step on the plumbing or pipes, the hose absorbs the shock and saves you from breaking brittle pump connections and sumps. When I took over the install of Peter's tank, his large sump was already broken due to the lack of pressure relief hose connections. It also makes it a heck of a lot easier to line up plumbing connections when you have hose connectors for wiggle room.

We use true union ball valves so pump removal is quick and easy. We keep a spare pump and use the same model pump for the return and all 4 close loops. This kind of uniformity, including valve location, makes it simple to use a spare pump or trade one of the closed loops out to fix a failed return pump. In many cases, one can use the same base pump for their protein skimmer as well for additional flexibility. If you are sharing a common pump model throughout your system. you quickly learn how it is disassembled and can at least have a few spare parts on hand. A leaking external closed loop pump can be switched with a well sealed submerged return or skimmer pump to get you out of a pinch. It's hard to deal with five different pump models on one system. Eben with a line like the Abyzz, I would use all 400 or 200 models rather than mix and match and come up short for spares. They are variable speed, so the flow curve efficiency is the same. In other words, you can run a bigger pump at half speed to get the same results... of course the capital cost is greater.

Hose in general, is great because it curves from point A to point B without restricting flow. You lose 10% of your flow with every 90˚ elbow. Elbows also cause cavitation (air bubbles) and can be noisy with vented drains. Hard plumbing looks nice and orderly, but you end up with microbubbles in the sump and a noisy drain system.

Transparent hose is a mixed blessing, you can see the water level and sometimes even velocity, but it can attract nuisance algae in lit areas. I use Tigerflex/spaflex for most applications, as it can be glued (Weldon 795 flexible PVC glue) to hard plumbing fittings. I use braided pvc (Kuri Tech) hose for simple return lines on smaller systems that only require 1/2"-1" hose. It's a little more flexible than spaflex and easier to use with hose barbs. You can soften up spaflex hose with a heat gun to lose some of its memory (bend) but it's always going to be stiff.

ou can see in the picture, the pump connection is marginally smaller in diameter than the hose barb, as illustrated by the amount that the clamps are closed/open.

 
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Is anything supporting those pipes, the intake ones look to be slopping downward (possibly from weight of union valve), and the output maybe supported by whatever it's plugged into, otherwise it's squishing down on the silicone sleeve/pipe section.

Dave: Yeah the silicone reduces the vibration along the pipes reducing sound. Although those pumps (and most DC pumps) are very quiet as it is.

The pipe comes through the wall from the display as hard pipe, then a short bit of spaflex, then finally a few inches of silicone. There is no significant weight, it's just I didn't use a level to line it up. You know what it's like working with all those pvc glue fumes :)

This is why I limited the length of the silicone hose, as it needs to be bracketed to a wall or somewhere stable. The silicone hose is also prohibitively expensive.

I had to use shared influent lines for the closed loops due to the limited number of holes drilled in the tank. I inherited the tank and didn't want to go drilling more holes in an existing tank. It gets into a grey area with warranty and we wanted to keep the tank itself simple. The effluent lines on the closed loop are dedicated lines (one pump per line). It's 2" in and 1.5" out.
 
This is what it looks like under the tank. Everything is clamped/bracketed to the walls...





The plumbing within the tank is more or less symmetrical to keep flow even. There are 19 1" eductors and all of the plumbing was coated with a marine cement to blend them in with the scenery.





 
holy bat caves tank-man: I would hate to be the monkey that has to shimmy down that passage to work on a fitting or make a modification LOL

I am plumbed to do a closed loop but the pump turned out to be too weak to make any difference. I am hoping to pull my sump out and return pump replace the connectors and put a bigger closed loop pump in
 
all of the plumbing was coated with a marine cement to blend them in with the scenery.
Ok here I'd like a little more info about, I have a tank with some bulkheads 2 of which are a little too near the front of the acrylic to just "cover with rocks". What exactly are you using for "marine cement" hydraulic cement? Or is there a marine grade of cement?

I see the pictures, looks like a bit of artsy work involved to get that naturalish look.
 
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