Desalwii doing bad :Alk swing or AEFW

I am truly sorry to see the devastation of your beautiful colonies, very sad :(. I do believe that a number of incidents have been documented here on RC where one friend has tried to save another friend's RTN'ing corals only to have the same thing happen to their tank within days of introducing the affected and dying frags. I had the same thing happen a few years back.

It seems like you have done everything short of removing all Acropora from main display and quarantining them. I would give that a shot. I found 10 AEFW on one stag in my tank a few months back. I set up a quarantine tank and removed every single bit of acropora from my main display...total pain in the arse...but I don't want to fight these stupid beasts over and over again. I did get all of my corals out and into the quarantine and dip process before they were showing any real stress problems or major tissue loss. Quarantine and dipping is stressful so I figured I would lose some of my pieces. I have lost one frag and one mini colony is almost gone, but what is left of it may be holding on at this point. At any rate, I am having a very successful time with the quarantine process and leaving the tank fallow of Acropora is getting rid of the beasties in the main display. I feel like I will definitely beat the AEFW.

This doesn't really address other corals like your montis showing problems. There is definitely something going on that is affecting a lot of your beautiful corals. It could be something spreading. Continuing to do water changes and try to save what you can...very frustrating though. I had a lot of problems in my current tank...for over two years acros would do well and then STN. It was mind numbing. Eventually a weird thing happened as I had exhausted all avenues of figuring out the culprit. I had an overdose of vinegar, and I mean major overdose (2/3 of gallon dosed into my system over a 24 hour period. This caused a huge bacteria bloom. For two days my tank was milk white. I did some pretty massive water changes over that week and eventually when it all cleared up, and I mean crystal clear, the acropora started coloring up and thriving. I surmise that something toxic was in my system that the more delicate Acros could not deal with. The bacteria bloom must have consumed whatever that was and now the tank is much more happy. Since then all acros have grown and done super well until the stupid AEFW. But, that is how it goes in this hobby, if it isn't one thing it is another, hehehehehe. At this point all of my acroporas in quarantine are doing well enough, just browning out :(.

I really hope you figure things out and can save some of your gorgeous pieces. Hang in there.
 
Dude, this just plain sucks. It's amazing how little we really know about this hobby when it boils down to it.

This thing does behave like a virus or an infection, especially when you see it spread into a new tank from healthy looking frags. The whole thing makes no sense at all, and maybe never will.

What we all know is that with your dedication and hard work, that things will return to their former glory.

thank you...

I am truly sorry to see the devastation of your beautiful colonies, very sad :(. I do believe that a number of incidents have been documented here on RC where one friend has tried to save another friend's RTN'ing corals only to have the same thing happen to their tank within days of introducing the affected and dying frags. I had the same thing happen a few years back.

It seems like you have done everything short of removing all Acropora from main display and quarantining them. I would give that a shot. I found 10 AEFW on one stag in my tank a few months back. I set up a quarantine tank and removed every single bit of acropora from my main display...total pain in the arse...but I don't want to fight these stupid beasts over and over again. I did get all of my corals out and into the quarantine and dip process before they were showing any real stress problems or major tissue loss. Quarantine and dipping is stressful so I figured I would lose some of my pieces. I have lost one frag and one mini colony is almost gone, but what is left of it may be holding on at this point. At any rate, I am having a very successful time with the quarantine process and leaving the tank fallow of Acropora is getting rid of the beasties in the main display. I feel like I will definitely beat the AEFW.

This doesn't really address other corals like your montis showing problems. There is definitely something going on that is affecting a lot of your beautiful corals. It could be something spreading. Continuing to do water changes and try to save what you can...very frustrating though. I had a lot of problems in my current tank...for over two years acros would do well and then STN. It was mind numbing. Eventually a weird thing happened as I had exhausted all avenues of figuring out the culprit. I had an overdose of vinegar, and I mean major overdose (2/3 of gallon dosed into my system over a 24 hour period. This caused a huge bacteria bloom. For two days my tank was milk white. I did some pretty massive water changes over that week and eventually when it all cleared up, and I mean crystal clear, the acropora started coloring up and thriving. I surmise that something toxic was in my system that the more delicate Acros could not deal with. The bacteria bloom must have consumed whatever that was and now the tank is much more happy. Since then all acros have grown and done super well until the stupid AEFW. But, that is how it goes in this hobby, if it isn't one thing it is another, hehehehehe. At this point all of my acroporas in quarantine are doing well enough, just browning out :(.

I really hope you figure things out and can save some of your gorgeous pieces. Hang in there.

thanks for your thoughts and sympathies...
I have now lost about 12-15 frags colonies of acroporas leaving me with about 10 left... of theses only 2 show no stress/stn (for now...)

I have also discovered some bugs and treated the tank with interceptor and done some lugols dips on some frags to see if it can stop the stn...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2241116

I was going to set a QT but finally got a little bit excited about it and finally set up a new display :debi:
new tank is 40x20x20 bean animal overflow, eurobrace, front glass starfire...

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this new tank will be for acroporas... and every pieces that will go in there will go trough a 4-6 weeks quarantine....

my cube will go towards a mixed reef LPS, montiporas, and maybe anemone...
I will try to save some pieces in my frag tank with weekly dips, but I am not very optimistic....

but I do have a gallon of vinegar sitting here... might give it a try ;)
 
Just for the record, all my acros (the ones that made it through...) are back on the track and encrusting... still not sure what happened but It was not the AEflatworms... I still have them and in greater number than in the beginning... things got better after the 2nd interceptor tx but might just be a coincidence... I've also done my salt change from deltec to reef crystals more rapidly than in the beginning without any issues..
so...don't know !

here is my desalwii back to normal :-)
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thanks for your help through this !
 
Just for the record, all my acros (the ones that made it through...) are back on the track and encrusting... still not sure what happened but It was not the AEflatworms... I still have them and in greater number than in the beginning... things got better after the 2nd interceptor tx but might just be a coincidence... I've also done my salt change from deltec to reef crystals more rapidly than in the beginning without any issues..
so...don't know !

here is my desalwii back to normal :-)
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thanks for your help through this !

interceptor doesnt work well on flatworm

have u tried Tropic Marin Pro Cure, that worked for me, killin everythin on acros, rangin from flatworm--once i had a badly infested colony, red bugs--on the same colony, and pest crabs--in a whole lot of acros
 
great looking coral deaslwii can be tough to maintain, glad to hear it is going better.

I also changed to reef crystals and IO to save $$, the tank just did not do very well after even thought everything tested well. I have not tried deltec but TM seems to be a good salt for me.
 
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