Difficult and Special Care Species List
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cortez marine
In Memoriam
FIXING REGALS AND OTHER S
FIXING REGALS AND OTHER S
Lack of decompression and caustic chemicals to collect fish no doubt sabatoged entire species reuptations as you so rarely ever see these species done right.
The endemic Philippine list has ruined species that may actually be viable caught properly, handled properly and shipped in more then a 1/4 cup of water.
This trade acts as if it has standards ....and then rewards the most insensitive, unthinking fish killing machines ever seen in the Manila and Denpasar cyanide fish mob of exporters.
Those guys breaks the rules as fast as you can make them.
Selling out to the cyanide trade ment also selling out to the zero-decompression fish trade and the gang bagged fish trade and the "store em in bags" under the hut trade for 3 days and the burn em w/ heat and ammonia trade...and the .pack em in 1/4 cup of water trade...ok, you get the picture.
New Guinea is now undergoing training of fishers to collect with only nets and handle fish to Australian standards.
They will hopefully soon pose a threat to the business as usual crowd who have ruined the pinatus bat, the yellow angel, the venustsus, the classic skinny tang and buttefly, the popped belly genicanthus tribe, the ruined anthias and the severely stressed and much tortured regal angel.
I saw 15 regals yesterday and they were eating like pigs....on the reef.
Surely there is a secret to unlock with them...Thats a fish I'd dearly like to fix and work with.
Well, we will!
Steve
PNG Fishery consultant
FIXING REGALS AND OTHER S
Lack of decompression and caustic chemicals to collect fish no doubt sabatoged entire species reuptations as you so rarely ever see these species done right.
The endemic Philippine list has ruined species that may actually be viable caught properly, handled properly and shipped in more then a 1/4 cup of water.
This trade acts as if it has standards ....and then rewards the most insensitive, unthinking fish killing machines ever seen in the Manila and Denpasar cyanide fish mob of exporters.
Those guys breaks the rules as fast as you can make them.
Selling out to the cyanide trade ment also selling out to the zero-decompression fish trade and the gang bagged fish trade and the "store em in bags" under the hut trade for 3 days and the burn em w/ heat and ammonia trade...and the .pack em in 1/4 cup of water trade...ok, you get the picture.
New Guinea is now undergoing training of fishers to collect with only nets and handle fish to Australian standards.
They will hopefully soon pose a threat to the business as usual crowd who have ruined the pinatus bat, the yellow angel, the venustsus, the classic skinny tang and buttefly, the popped belly genicanthus tribe, the ruined anthias and the severely stressed and much tortured regal angel.
I saw 15 regals yesterday and they were eating like pigs....on the reef.
Surely there is a secret to unlock with them...Thats a fish I'd dearly like to fix and work with.
Well, we will!
Steve
PNG Fishery consultant
cortez marine
In Memoriam
They are nearly all popped in the belly after the great and terrible hydraulic pressure spike has buzzed thru their entire body!
The lack of decompression of this 100% netcaught fish may well be the great test fish to show how lack of decompression ruins a species in the estimation of the market.
"Nearly all potters" suffer this from meathead Hawaiian collectors.
Pactrop....is it not true?
[ I said "nearly all"]
steve
The lack of decompression of this 100% netcaught fish may well be the great test fish to show how lack of decompression ruins a species in the estimation of the market.
"Nearly all potters" suffer this from meathead Hawaiian collectors.
Pactrop....is it not true?
[ I said "nearly all"]
steve
cortez marine
In Memoriam
You could have a good one!
Some even come from the shallows and some divers will decompress their fish completely...
But so many show the lead tail syndrome is the classic sign as they swim forward w/ a slight sandbagging from the rear.
More difficult to see is the slowly evolving after-effects as the infecton from inside that may develop from the poking of the needle thru often essential organs.
Needling fishes after they reach the boat is already late as even a split second of the displacement of organs in the body cavity by the air ballon can cause-tissue stretch and damage.
How would you like a basket ball size volume of air in your stomach for a second or two?
What would the effect be as your heart and kidneys are "momentarily" pushed aside???
Steve
Some even come from the shallows and some divers will decompress their fish completely...
But so many show the lead tail syndrome is the classic sign as they swim forward w/ a slight sandbagging from the rear.
More difficult to see is the slowly evolving after-effects as the infecton from inside that may develop from the poking of the needle thru often essential organs.
Needling fishes after they reach the boat is already late as even a split second of the displacement of organs in the body cavity by the air ballon can cause-tissue stretch and damage.
How would you like a basket ball size volume of air in your stomach for a second or two?
What would the effect be as your heart and kidneys are "momentarily" pushed aside???
Steve
reefworldaq
New member
Hai Every, have a everyone know how to send a big fish (around 15cm until 30 cm) to overseas maybe arpund 3/4 days. Can we use a plastic bag or open system like aquarium/tank.
Aquarist007
New member
this might be a good thread to discuss whether or not a dwarf lion fish is suitable for a reef tank.
I always look at the inherent potentials of a fish before considering it.
Dwarf or not --it has the potential to each inverts esp shrimp in the tank--that makes it unsafe for my reef tank
How does everyone else feel on the suitablility of a dwarf lion for a reef tank?
I always look at the inherent potentials of a fish before considering it.
Dwarf or not --it has the potential to each inverts esp shrimp in the tank--that makes it unsafe for my reef tank
How does everyone else feel on the suitablility of a dwarf lion for a reef tank?
This is a 'must read'. My LFS was more interested in selling fish rather then suggesting what may work best for a person new to the hobby - results from LFS expert advice: yelllow tank, coral beauty, clown sweetlips & 6 line wrasse (my fave). Fortunately all are very healthy and eating well. I am setting up a 90 & will try to move the tang. I can't return any bec they have all been given names. Membership to reef central or similar should be the first thing a LFS suggests (not the fish they have the most of)
Aquarist007
New member
or the trigger clown had to be put in your bath tub:lol:
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Aquarist007
New member
[welcome]
they are not considered reef safe fish--because they will eat almost any type of invertebrates---some which form the clean up crew for your mixed tank.
Paul B
Premium Member
I think for the most part that list is accurate. I have kept almost all of the fish listed and I feel that if a fish does not live at least most of it's natural life span than we failed. Most small tropical fish should live at least ten years while larger ones should live a lot longer, some over twenty.
It seems that most fish in captivity (mine anyway) usually die of an accident like lack of electricity or heat, jumping out, harassment or some other obscure happening. We can't prevent many accidents we can only learn from them and try to correct the situation.
I do feel better knowing that most fish in the sea are eaten way before they die of old age so I assume they will do better in my tank. Maybe not happier but I really don't know what they are thinking.
Paul
It seems that most fish in captivity (mine anyway) usually die of an accident like lack of electricity or heat, jumping out, harassment or some other obscure happening. We can't prevent many accidents we can only learn from them and try to correct the situation.
I do feel better knowing that most fish in the sea are eaten way before they die of old age so I assume they will do better in my tank. Maybe not happier but I really don't know what they are thinking.
Paul
RonMidtownStomp
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What is the reason behind the trumpetfish being on the avoid list? They had an awesome one at a store here in Sacramento and I'm still seriously considering it. He said it required live food which is the part that's making me hesitate, but I could handle that.
Ron
Ron
RonMidtownStomp
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That would just mean that I would need a bigger tank, not that I could never have one. They sold or killed (?) the Trumpetfish, so I went to my favorite reef store and they had a marine beta which I think is a better choice right now. I'd still like to know if I can have one some day. I have the perfect place for a 300 gallon tank and will probably have one within a year.
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