Dinoflagellates.

ok so listen.... I JUST beat this stuff..... I've been having issues with it for a 3 months in my 200 gallon, i tore down my 90 gallon because of it in the past... i've done black out, no water changes, THE BEST HUSBANDRY, Hydrogen peroxide, etc..... I know i had dino because I confirmed it with a microscope.

a sure way that finally worked for me was this:
I cleaned out as much as i could as possible everyday... didn't do a water change for a month...

then one day i completely cleaned the tank the best i could with turkey basting, netting, etc. i cut the lights and covered my sps tank for 5 solid days. and i dosed FAUNA MARIN ULTRA ALGAE X EXCACTLY... i'm going to say EXACTLY one more time, as the manual describes. after 5 days all the algae was either gone or dead white. i kept dosing ultra algae x for a week after this stuff. it hasn't come back yet but i haven't done a water change either so you never know. i may still be in the boat. but there's literally no signs of it... i dosed after there were no signs as well. i just stopped 4 days ago. so the tank has been clean for 2 weeks

dude, 2 weeks is nothing...i was able to get by 2 weeks every time with a 3-5 day blackout...but they come back...so say you've beaten this stuff after you've been dino free for 6-12 months or more, not 2 weeks

i haven't seen a sign of dinos in 2 months...but i'm still skeptical every day i look into my tank...i inspect everything and every algae and every bubble i see i still get worried...
 
I wish I had the time to do this to my tank. Full time student by night (MBA), stay at home dad by morning and early afternoon, part time work, and several other tanks, pets, wife, house duties.

I wish there was an easier solution! :D

Sounds like your lack of time would be perfect for Montireef's approach of dealing with this.

Dennis
 
1) I don't have time to sleep, let alone take apart an entire tank and **** off the inhabitants. Literally, I eat in to my sleep time for my daddy daycare time, work, and full time graduate school. Not enough hours in the day. On weekends, I am on full-time baby duty because the wife works. Have you tried to take apart a tank with a 10 month old?

2) I can dose every day no issue.

Then this hobby is not for you I'm afraid. If you can't do what's needed to fix the problem when its in your face then you'll never fix it. You have time to message the forum you have time to fix your tank. What you need to do had been given to you and there really isn't any other way. In the manual it says to do what i told you... It says dosing alone won't work.. Sooo... good luck
 
Then this hobby is not for you I'm afraid. If you can't do what's needed to fix the problem when its in your face then you'll never fix it. You have time to message the forum you have time to fix your tank. What you need to do had been given to you and there really isn't any other way. In the manual it says to do what i told you... It says dosing alone won't work.. Sooo... good luck

Seeing as how there is no true or generalized "fix" across the board at this time, I'd have to respectfully disagree. For many people, all the extra blood, sweat and tears yield fruitless results and, in some cases, make matters worse.
 
Seeing as how there is no true or generalized "fix" across the board at this time, I'd have to respectfully disagree. For many people, all the extra blood, sweat and tears yield fruitless results and, in some cases, make matters worse.

I don't know what to tell you then? I wish I could just pickns cure that convienienced me and that meant it would work
 
I don't know what to tell you then? I wish I could just pickns cure that convienienced me and that meant it would work

No worries, it was a partial vent of frustration :). Your method may well work for some people in some cases. For those dedicated enough, it is certainly worth a shot.
 
This is probably answered somewhere in this thread, but why shouldn't I do water changes when dealing with dinoflagellates?
 
I agree that the trace elements in the fresh saltwater might feed dinoflagellates. I'd probably keep up the changes unless there was a visible bloom after them, or the bloom had been going on for a while.
 
I see it differently. Water changes remove built up nutrients that the competing organisms need to reclaim the ground gained by the dinos. You need some nutrients to fuel the algae that normally occupy the food hiearchy that dinos fill in an artificial system.

At least for me, that's the core logic here. It's why reintroducing skimmer effluent could work (imo).
 
I fully agree karimwassef

One more time:
What species of dinoflagellate are you fighting???
Nobody tells. The first step is identification, what works for prorocentrum and amphidinium (common dinos in our hobby) may not work for ostreopsis, gambierdiscus...
 
I fully agree karimwassef

One more time:
What species of dinoflagellate are you fighting???
Nobody tells. The first step is identification, what works for prorocentrum and amphidinium (common dinos in our hobby) may not work for ostreopsis, gambierdiscus...

I've battled both ostreopsis and gambierdiscus. I never found anything that could beat gambierdiscus (UV, low nutrients, Ultra Algae X, lights out, peroxide, diatom filtration, etc.). I had to break down the tank. Unfortunately, after restarting, I developed an ostreopsis bloom. As several others have reported, ostreopsis can be beaten by nutrients. Grow turf algae at all costs (not chaeto or macro algae - they were just hosting more dinos)! Why skim if you are just pouring it back in? I removed the skimmer all together and did my best to grow algae wherever I could. I made a simple upflow algae screen and later a down flow version. As algae starts to grow on the screen, dinos eventually disappear in the tank. I removed my skimmer last June and have been dino free since August.
 
I fully agree karimwassef

One more time:
What species of dinoflagellate are you fighting???
Nobody tells. The first step is identification, what works for prorocentrum and amphidinium (common dinos in our hobby) may not work for ostreopsis, gambierdiscus...


Is there a thread that I can reference to determine which type I have?
 
What is the best way to treat an SPS coral that has dino growing on it? I noticed bubbles forming on it. Should I do a freshwater dip, peroxide dip, or treat it in place with peroxide?
 
What is the best way to treat an SPS coral that has dino growing on it? I noticed bubbles forming on it. Should I do a freshwater dip, peroxide dip, or treat it in place with peroxide?

Freshwater will instantly kill your sps and it'll just come back. Blow it off with a turkey baster
 
Is there a thread that I can reference to determine which type I have?

You can find examples of what they look like in this thread. The user Pants can also help you id them if you post a photo of the dinofalgellate. You do need a microscope to both see the actual dino and a somewwhat more capable microscope to get a photo that can assist with an identifcation.

What is the best way to treat an SPS coral that has dino growing on it? I noticed bubbles forming on it. Should I do a freshwater dip, peroxide dip, or treat it in place with peroxide?

Bubbles can be sign of cyano or dinos, so their presence does not always mean dinos. As others have suggested, a turkey baster is a good way of blowing off the frag that does not harm the frag.

Dennis
 
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