DIY LEDs - The write-up

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So I can run 16 LEDs on one ELN 60-48 as long as I put them in two parallel series of 8? I will still prob be going with 50/50 all xr-es but I really just need to know if I can run that extra 4 per driver.

Yes, you can do that, as long as you understand the implications of running parallel strings. The strings MUST have the same voltage drop, else you will have issues. Ensuring the strings have the same drop is a two step process. First, build them from the same model/bin of LEDs, or equal numbers of different LEDs (i.e. you CAN NOT have one string of royal blue XR-E and another of cool white XR-E, but you can have two strings with 4 each). This is because different LEDs have different specified Vfs under different conditions. Second, once you have built your strings, you MUST test them to ensure they actually do have equivalent voltage drops. If they do, you're all set. If they don't, you have to swap LEDs around until they do. LEDs can have significant variation in Vf from the specified value (the manufacturers acknowledge this, it's not a conspiracy). You can determine if your strings are balanced by putting a 1 ohm resistor inline with each string and measuring voltage drop across each resistor (while running your LEDs at a safe low voltage).

Besides balancing the strings, you need to protect them from a fault - if an LED in one string fails open, the other string will instantly get twice the current you designed it for, which can obviously be bad for the LEDs in that string - the most common method of protection is installing a fuse inline with each string, rated above the designed current for that string but below the value it would get if the other string failed.
 
Is the general consensus right now to go with the Cree XP-G for the white and XP-E RBs for the blue? I'm questioning the benefit of going with the higher-priced units instead of staying with the XR-Es albeit the XP-Gs provide a few more lumens.

Yes, that is essentially the typical build right now. Of course, your choice will depend on your own criteria.

Personally, a big part of the reason why I'm in this is efficiency. Hence I feel it is important to be relentless about efficiency. An increase in cost of the build to get more efficiency can easily be offset by lower operating costs over time - the XP-G may seem more expensive, but if you intend to keep your LED rig for more than a year or two, they'll pay for themselves.
 
Bill. Why? You don't need two meters. In fact it's sort of a bad idea. If you have resistors in each string just measure the voltage across the resistors.

If they're 1 ohm the voltage you measure is the current.

That's the whole point of adding the resistors, to allow instant current checks of the various strings.

kcress

Thanks

I cant believe I missed something so obvious but then again its been a few years since high school electronics shop.

Bill
 
Just to update everyone...

I am going to pull my hair out! I tested for everything and anything and I still can not get this to fire! The worst part is I hooked up my LPC-35-700 in a parallel with 2 strings of 12 and EVERYONE worked fine. Needless to say I looked at the HLG drivers and considered doing the peoples elbow on them.

I'll have to wait until next week to test the drivers with how busy work will be ( Yahoo retail! ). Again I thank everyone for there input and help. I will have these working sometime!

-Dave
 
Digi-Key has 1 ohm 2w resistors right. I was trying to find them on their site with no luck. Anyone have a link to them please?
 
That's wirewound. I've heard anecdotal evidence that wirewound are "bad" for precision use (i.e. as a current sense resistor) but I don't know the reasoning behind that. Any thoughts?

Also, I totally agree about getting a 1%. And a higher power rating. I just grabbed the first 1ohm 2w resistor I found. :)
 
Good point Willie... It could be a problem but a doubt it. It's now pretty hard to find non-wire wound resistors. Composition which were excellent and non-wirewound are now crazy hard to find and expensive, like north of 10 bucks often.

Resistors are now made by etching a wire spiral down the barrel. So they are the same they just don't declare them "wirewound".

I don't expect an issue at the frequencies these drivers are running at. Also while they can be inductive they are only air cored so the inductance is low.
 
Cant sleep! Must finish!

I gladly accept donations for sunglasses.

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-Dave
 
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