<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12069180#post12069180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RevHtree
Seriously though, these threads area dime a dozen here.......
There's nothing wrong with that. There are multiple threads on a lot of topics here.
Does anyone have pics of "LE" polyps?
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There's nothing wrong with that. There are multiple threads on a lot of topics here.
I think every sight is different.
I agree with you 100 % sir.
650-IS350
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I understand the point there to Rev, but there's a limit to what you can say is LE. which is more really only applicable to SPS/and some LPS.
Like my self I use my Nucs/PD's and PPEs for trades for LE tyree SPS stuff or hard to get SPS/LPS stuff but no way do I use the my NUC/PD/PPE's are LE's to get a better deal. They do know they are just more sought after.
IMO' polyps shouldn't get the LE status rather they should get a " MOST DESIREABLE " status ie' or " HARD TO GET " status.
Like my self I use my Nucs/PD's and PPEs for trades for LE tyree SPS stuff or hard to get SPS/LPS stuff but no way do I use the my NUC/PD/PPE's are LE's to get a better deal. They do know they are just more sought after.
IMO' polyps shouldn't get the LE status rather they should get a " MOST DESIREABLE " status ie' or " HARD TO GET " status.
Rev ????? Come on LOL
If it's growing, how on earth is anything LE?
gflat65
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I think I agree with your underlying argument and angst, but I disagree on a couple points. I actually visualize you sitting over a crystal ball and watching the ripples for a desired effect
.First, if anyone is really being dooped by the LE title and don't know what they are getting (with mother colony pics-even though that isn't always a guarantee, either), can't they be held at fault for being ignorant to the deal? When I've been burned before, it's usually because I didn't ask enough questions or something along those lines. Similar to people blaming the person who gave them a pest, when ultimately it is our responsibility to make sure we aren't putting pests in our tanks. If someone knowingly sells something pest ridden, 10 shames and scurge on them, but we share responsibility, don't we? Bottom line, if you are willing to pay more than the normal amount for something, do your homework. There aren't too many markets that aren't buyer beware, unfortunately.
In this case, the brand is Tyree. I'm just now starting to see people selling things as LE that didn't come from Tyree(aside from those who try selling a brown staghorn on ebay as a LE ponape birdsnest
), so to me, LE is Tyree. I doubt he had an evil moment where he said to himself, I can make millions if I only start naming things-muhahaha. I'd bet it started as an inside joke or something, though I have to admit I'm ignorant to the Tyree personal story except through things I've read on reef boards. The fact that it is making money is a testament to the capitalistic society in which we live.I agree that the naming thing thing has run up the cost on corals, but that has just made me become more resourceful. Most of the 'named' corals I have came through trades. It's not fair, but what really is? I like the naming thing because it is a descriptor. What tells you more, I've got a red car, or I've got a red Ford Pinto in pristene condition?
The problem that I see is that people newer in the hobby typically don't have much to trade to get the 'named' things. Of course, it is likely self dooming to get into the hobby and start buying expensive corals that you might not have the system to handle and don't know any better-wisdom does come with time. I know I did some stupid things in the early days (like cutting the center brace on my 40H because it was blocking light in the center of the tank-didn't break, but chipped all the way down both sides as soon as it sprang loose).
In many cases, the 'named' corals are crazed by mass hysteria, but in a lot of SPS cases, the reason for the hype is the known color potential and growth form. I've got more unnamed corals than named corals by far, but once you get your tank nearly stocked, you start getting picky and don't take as many chances on something that might it might not give you something you are looking for (except in the case of some markedly different in form than anything else I might have-they can be brown
). Then you start finding things that look better than some of the other things you have and start replacing. Addictions are addictions...
LOL that was too funny
650-IS350
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The branding LE term goes to if you get a TYREE SPS, you are Guaranteed that that strand of coral will hold its color, looks etc in your tank and has been bred in the tank for generations. You pay for what you get, compared to zoos/palys, they do have the notion of morphing or changing the intensity of color depending on your tank conditions and lighting. The paly you get from me has a chance to morph to something else when it gets to your tank. I cant guarantee that.
There are still a lot of newbies getting into zoos so people are still getting dupped into that. Just look at EBAY, how many advertisments do you see there when someone there is trying to sell a pink or greenish polyp as an LE or " RARE" to get more $$$$. It still happens and you will still have a lot of newbies falling for that, which is why we are here to help those see the light. LOL
BTW- REV, I got to have me some of those hasselpalys' man. those we could start the term to " NTG " NEED TO GET instead of LE
Charles-
There are still a lot of newbies getting into zoos so people are still getting dupped into that. Just look at EBAY, how many advertisments do you see there when someone there is trying to sell a pink or greenish polyp as an LE or " RARE" to get more $$$$. It still happens and you will still have a lot of newbies falling for that, which is why we are here to help those see the light. LOL
BTW- REV, I got to have me some of those hasselpalys' man. those we could start the term to " NTG " NEED TO GET instead of LE
Charles-
Skeptic_07
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heres some zoas labled LE
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-LE-PHOENIX...ryZ46308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not a bad price either although with shipping its expensive if you only get the one frag
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-LE-PHOENIX...ryZ46308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
not a bad price either although with shipping its expensive if you only get the one frag
If you click on his store, everything he sells says Rare or LE. The polyps in this link above are years on the market. Some of those polyps are as old as I am. Note, on page 2 at the bottom, the Green Bay Packer and the flaming mean greens. I had those in 2004, and everyone I know in Michigan has had them at one time or another, and according to him, they are still rare. Most of page 2 and 3 was seen at least 3 years ago. It never ends.
Thanks for the post Skeptic_07
Thanks for the post Skeptic_07
