Ecotech Marine announces third generation Radion LED light fixtures

Tradewinds

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I just read on another site, that can't be linked here, that Ecotech Marine announced a third generation Radion LED light fixture. The article states that "EcoTech Marine is excited to announce the Radion XR30wG3 and XR30wG3Pro. Generation 3 Radions are available for immediate order."

I didn't see anything up on Ecotech's site yet.
 
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I believe this to be true, ughhh. I just bought some Hydra 52's and now I'm thinking about sending them back and ordering the new pro's. This makes the Radion G3 Pro very competitively priced assuming it will have the reeflink built in.
 
I think we are a long ways away from reeflink being built in, if it ever can/will be that is. I don't think it makes sense to do so tho since you only need one link to the web, not every radion linked individually. I can only find one website with information and it's not much at that. I am very interested to see some more specific specs on the new LEDs and if there is an upgrade path. I don't think so tho as the fixture looks different. We will see tho when ecotech makes the announcement themselves.
 
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On sale in the US immediately, so expect them in the UK in a week or two.



This is copied from aqua nerd

Here's a surprise early year release from EcoTech Marine. They just announced the release of the 3rd generation of the wildly popular XR30w and XR30w Pro LED fixtures. The fixtures are available for an immediate release to the public, via your favorite authorized retailer of course, and there are plenty of new features. The big updates come in both form and functionality. The XR30wG3 and XR30wG3Pro will come with an updated look that is sleeker than previous generations, and part of that visual updates is illuminated tactile buttons. In terms of performance, the new generation Radion will now include indigo/UV LEDs that will allow for greater output and a wider spectrum. Adding to that performance, the Radion adopts a full array of Cree XP-G2 and Osram Oslon Square LEDs. And last but definitely not least, the G3 and G3 Pro fixtures are fully integrated with EcoSmart Live!


Beyond the fixture's aesthetics and performance, the light can be further customized with the use of the new 120 degree wide angle TIR lenses.



The US also gets improved pricing, fingers crossed for the UK
 
Don't you guys get it? Eco tech is constantly coming out with newer models everytime they have sucess with a new technology.

It's extremely frustrating when you spend TOP dollar for a light fixture and they come out with something better. (and Don't compare this to new cars, lights aren't cars)

Those that have generation ones or pros are left questioning why did we spend all this money when we could have waited for this one to come out.

I personally are going turned off by this approach to business. I'm sure that these lights are going to be spectacular but I wouldn't buy them in fear of a better model coming out later.

Why do you continue to waste money on something that is going to be second best later but you paid top prices this time.

All we do when we purchase there products is promote this way of developement. They are stepping forward and playing with new technology on our dime and on the flip side they're fine tuning their product.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if the price of these lights reflected there journey to creating the better light, but I can't keep buying a product from them and turn around to have then make one beetter on my hard earned dollar.

I'm not opening this up for debate, this is my opinion, I wont defend it. I just wanted to see if anyone see's it this way or am I the only one with my eyes wide open?
 
LEDs are improving all the time
The way I look at it if gen 1 or 2 or pros are doing the job you require great stick with them if you want to upgrade at least ecotech allow this and don't write off your existing equipment

I for one will be buying one of these as I was going to buy a pro and add my gen 2 to my frag tank anyway
 
Don't you guys get it? Eco tech is constantly coming out with newer models everytime they have sucess with a new technology.

It's extremely frustrating when you spend TOP dollar for a light fixture and they come out with something better. (and Don't compare this to new cars, lights aren't cars)

Those that have generation ones or pros are left questioning why did we spend all this money when we could have waited for this one to come out.

I personally are going turned off by this approach to business. I'm sure that these lights are going to be spectacular but I wouldn't buy them in fear of a better model coming out later.

Why do you continue to waste money on something that is going to be second best later but you paid top prices this time.

All we do when we purchase there products is promote this way of developement. They are stepping forward and playing with new technology on our dime and on the flip side they're fine tuning their product.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if the price of these lights reflected there journey to creating the better light, but I can't keep buying a product from them and turn around to have then make one beetter on my hard earned dollar.

I'm not opening this up for debate, this is my opinion, I wont defend it. I just wanted to see if anyone see's it this way or am I the only one with my eyes wide open?

I understand and sympathize with where your coming from as I just upgraded to the PROs in Oct. While I support the R&D of new technology, I think I will just need to limit myself to upgrading every couple of years, unless some really spectacular enhancement is introduced. Hopefully the older technology will continue to be supported.
 
Every technology manufacturer does this. I don't get why people give Ecotech so much trouble about it. I give them kudos for continuing to innovate and push reef technology to the next level.

And just because there is a newer generation out there, all of the really good things that were said about the previous generations are still true. If you're a tech junky and want to upgrade to the newest equipment every year - go for it! (this hobby is about having fun) - but don't feel like your equipment is useless when the next model comes out.
 
Every technology manufacturer does this. I don't get why people give Ecotech so much trouble about it. I give them kudos for continuing to innovate and push reef technology to the next level.

And just because there is a newer generation out there, all of the really good things that were said about the previous generations are still true. If you're a tech junky and want to upgrade to the newest equipment every year - go for it! (this hobby is about having fun) - but don't feel like your equipment is useless when the next model comes out.

Entirely agree. I'd rather have new R&D come out all the time than every few years. I much prefer the agile methodology over waterfall.
 
It's called " The American Way" always bigger and better next month.

By bringing out new models all the time it is a way to drive Income, That what most companies do to drive sales.

It is a real pain as it devalues the equipment.
 
is there any REAL difference in performance from the original Pro's and the "new" G3? doesn't seem like anything other than the body…… i see the typical talk about "greater output and a wider spectrum." but the Pro's already have UV bulbs and honestly these lights are already OVERKILL with over half the people running their lights at around 50% already so…………. :-/
Meh…..
 
if your G1 and G2 are getting good growth, then don't worry about it. If you're upset, it's because you want to keep up with the jones constantly. Fast track to going broke.

What is ecotech supposed to do? Shut down research and development and don't come out with new products? they can't sit still and think their company won't go under playing from behind.

these new products are for those who haven't adopted LEDs yet. They are getting a good deal. These lights are awesome.
 
what Ecotech needs to do is start leasing their lights. that way when new products come out you you trade in you're old lights and then there will be preowned products at a reasonable price.

there you go, win win. those that want to keep up with the jones' will pay ecotech $30 every month for the rest of their lives and others can afford used ecotechs priducts.
 
I just put three pros over my tank and I'm not upset in the slightest that there are new models out. In fact, I thank ecotech for everything they've done now and before. Mine work great and my corals are happy. How does a new product make my lights less effective? They don't and if they didn't keep improving then how would we have even made it where we are now? Great lights, keep up the good work. Now, if we want to talk about where they should go, I'd love to see a single puck light for my frag tank ;)
 
I don't own leds yet cause I'm waiting till I upgrade to a bigger tank. I've heard complaints about where the fans are located on the radions. Did they change this with the Gen 3's? How much of an issue is the location of the fans and what about if you plan on installing them in a canopy? What's the recommended height above water?
 
Don't you guys get it? Eco tech is constantly coming out with newer models everytime they have sucess with a new technology.

It's extremely frustrating when you spend TOP dollar for a light fixture and they come out with something better. (and Don't compare this to new cars, lights aren't cars)

Those that have generation ones or pros are left questioning why did we spend all this money when we could have waited for this one to come out.

I personally are going turned off by this approach to business. I'm sure that these lights are going to be spectacular but I wouldn't buy them in fear of a better model coming out later.

Why do you continue to waste money on something that is going to be second best later but you paid top prices this time.

All we do when we purchase there products is promote this way of developement. They are stepping forward and playing with new technology on our dime and on the flip side they're fine tuning their product.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if the price of these lights reflected there journey to creating the better light, but I can't keep buying a product from them and turn around to have then make one beetter on my hard earned dollar.

I'm not opening this up for debate, this is my opinion, I wont defend it. I just wanted to see if anyone see's it this way or am I the only one with my eyes wide open?

Have you never bought a computer before? lol
Best Buy even had a commercial about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRMVhlNP5I

You get what you can at the time and then you just roll with it. You'll never be able to always have the latest and greatest of anything unless you want to keep spending the money to upgrade.

Ecotech should be commended for pushing the technology further and further and not resting on their laurels.
 
I don’t think people understand what you’re saying Billabong. I think I get it though. What your doing is basing your thoughts on ecotechs past business trend with their pumps. They only have 1 style of MP10, one style of the 40 and 1 style of the 60. And even though they could improve upon it they haven’t. So if you have the MP60 you have the best pump for that size tank (that’s open for debate as well). If you had a smaller tank then the 40, or 10 is the best pump.

With the radions they continue to roll out better lights on the same platform. If I had a 2x2 tank then any of their lights will accommodate my needs. However if I purchased the gen1 when they first came out and said, “wow this is cutting edge lighting, I’m glad I spent the extra money for it!, My tank is SO happy with me!! You’re welcome little buddies” then I can understand the frustration with spending tons of money and getting second best only a short period of time later, and then 3rd best and so on.

Coupling the trend that you see now with what they were doing, you would expect that the gen1 would still be the best of the best for a 2x2 tank, maybe the gen2 would work for a 2x3, the pro for 3x4 and so on. That would only make sense.

However, looking back it’s not that different, remember that they did the same thing with their pumps. The MP10, 20’s and 40’s weren’t wirelessly controlled,(the 20 is now obsolete). Once they fine tuned the wireless technology, they came out with the “W” model. So what they are doing is no different from what they did in the past.

Quite frankly I look at all these new lights as bells and whistles. I have the gen1’s and don’t buy into the hype of any of the others. You can continue to get bent over their business choices, but if everyone thought like you and I, then they would have flopped on the gen2 and they would have learned from their mistake and you wouldn’t see another light on the same platform. But it seems that once someone like mr. saltwater fish guy (or whatever his name is) and the person of the thread you’re following says, “Don’t get left in the dark ages!! these are great lights, you have to get them!!”. What do we do? We have to get them because that’s how marketing works.

Bill, I wouldn’t expect to change the minds of these readers, the customer loyalty is unwavering. I never understood it myself. (I’m going to cars and I know you said not to) I own 2 luxury vehicles from the same company, do I like them? Heck yeah they are built to last. Would I defend them in a argument over which is better. NOPE, why because, I’m not on their payroll, they aren’t paying me to defend them. And what’s good for me, may not be good for you.
 
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