Ed Reef's '295-gallon Peninsular ZEOVit SPS tank'
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Ed Reef
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Hi Jason - no sign of the dragon wrasse unfortunately...
I understand what you meant now by 100w T5 as you count in overdriving the bulb (also shorten the life of the T5 thou')Well, honestly a lot will depend on your aquascape but if you are using the golden 5:3 ratio to scape, my guess is you will most probably end up with rocks towards the side
Either or, MH or T5 will give you enough par to grow corals (both LPS and SPS) but if you intend to keep butterflies and angels beware of meaty corals... :eek2:
Another advantage of using 2 set of 39w (beside it covering end to end) is you have more options for switching on/off the T5, not sure if that's important to you but if not, then it's always good to save some $$ especially in these poor economy
Ed Reef
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That's a thought.... replacing the actinic completely
I planned to run the MH without the actinic on anyway so when the actinic is on, it's purely for looks only :rollface: so getting some pars at the same time sound good but will have to see as I run 450n before and don't quite like the look without the MH on as it's too bright for me, compare to 420n :lol:
Ed Reef
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It's the way the eye sees and that's the way we scape!! I think there is a thread somewhere before on this....can't remember now but I think the Japanese perfected this technic in the garden landscape or even FW planted tanks and if you look at how ADG aquascape their tank, they uses basically the same ratio.
I will post it here if I can find it again...
Ed Reef
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Aquascaping Tips
Aquascaping Tips
Can't find the thread so I quickly drew up something in Excel and post it here...hope it helps explain the golden ratio...maybe Marc can chip in
Step 1:
Imagine your tank in a graft where you draw equal distant lines to give it some symmetric, starting with the center line....
Step 2:
Once you have the symmetric of the tank, the eyes usually focus on those red stars I drew up....
You will notice that the eyes seldom notice the center but instead view following the line I drew - sort of a 'S' sideways...(from left to right)
Step 3:
This is how you can apply your aquascape to those lines as guides BUT bear in mind where you want to place tall and low corals, etc in line with the guides...so your height of your LR and coral growth should be taken into consideration
Hope I'm making sense here..... in FW planted or garden landscape, there is lot's of talk about this ratio but I notice not much is mention in Marine aquascaping...
Maybe Marc can have a topic on aquascaping one of these days in RC Magazine as there is a lot of interest, I'm sure... :lol:
Aquascaping Tips
Can't find the thread so I quickly drew up something in Excel and post it here...hope it helps explain the golden ratio...maybe Marc can chip in
Step 1:
Imagine your tank in a graft where you draw equal distant lines to give it some symmetric, starting with the center line....
Step 2:
Once you have the symmetric of the tank, the eyes usually focus on those red stars I drew up....
You will notice that the eyes seldom notice the center but instead view following the line I drew - sort of a 'S' sideways...(from left to right)
Step 3:
This is how you can apply your aquascape to those lines as guides BUT bear in mind where you want to place tall and low corals, etc in line with the guides...so your height of your LR and coral growth should be taken into consideration
Hope I'm making sense here..... in FW planted or garden landscape, there is lot's of talk about this ratio but I notice not much is mention in Marine aquascaping...
Maybe Marc can have a topic on aquascaping one of these days in RC Magazine as there is a lot of interest, I'm sure... :lol:
melev
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I learned aobut it myself at CRASE earlier this year. Paul Whitby talked about it in his presentation about aquascaping and it was very interesting. Some of us do it naturally, others accidentally, and most don't do it at all and thus don't like what we are seeing (but don't know why).
The idea is to avoid the wall of rock look, right? With the 5:3 rule, you have an area that is larger and the other area that is smaller. Paul's presentation included pictures of faces, and showed how the 5:3 rule applied to those that we tend to consider more beautiful usually. It was so interesting, but I didn't take pictures and didn't remember the details because it was just sinking in. I pointed Paul to this discussion, so I'll stop here before I start posting fictional stuff.
The idea is to avoid the wall of rock look, right? With the 5:3 rule, you have an area that is larger and the other area that is smaller. Paul's presentation included pictures of faces, and showed how the 5:3 rule applied to those that we tend to consider more beautiful usually. It was so interesting, but I didn't take pictures and didn't remember the details because it was just sinking in. I pointed Paul to this discussion, so I'll stop here before I start posting fictional stuff.
Ed Reef
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Thanks Marc - hopefully Paul Whitby will drop by my thread and see what he has to say about my theory !!
Meanwhile, I found out that the LB reflector I'm ordering is without the splash guard. There is some misunderstanding as the model with the splash guard is smaller in size and it's call a pendant where else mine is larger and is the raw reflector, which suit me fine as it's cheaper to shipped and no risk of breakage
Meanwhile, I found out that the LB reflector I'm ordering is without the splash guard. There is some misunderstanding as the model with the splash guard is smaller in size and it's call a pendant where else mine is larger and is the raw reflector, which suit me fine as it's cheaper to shipped and no risk of breakage
Lowredranger
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Which lumenbright reflector are you going with the mini wide or large?
Per your drawing above i tried laying out my rockwork in the garage yesterday hopefully when i get it all in the take it will be visually appealing.
Per your drawing above i tried laying out my rockwork in the garage yesterday hopefully when i get it all in the take it will be visually appealing.
Ed Reef
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I went with the large reflector as the mini-wide is more of a pendant and it's heavy to ship and also a pain to change the bulbs each time
Hope my drawing give you some ideas for aquascape... let me know when you put something together as you got great space to work with. I know aquascaping for a 3-side peninsular view is always more difficult compare to aquascaping for a one side view only.
Hope my drawing give you some ideas for aquascape... let me know when you put something together as you got great space to work with. I know aquascaping for a 3-side peninsular view is always more difficult compare to aquascaping for a one side view only.
Lowredranger
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Here is a link to the short build thread i have at the moment on the 2nd page there are some less than good pics of the rockwork. It looks a lot better in person hard to get the depth and angle of the rock outside of the tank. The single rock in the pic doesn't look like it goes with the whole S design but i needed somewhere specific for the anemone to go.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1511254&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
I too was thinking of going with the large lumenbright fixtures with 250w SE Reeflux 12k and 8x39w t-5 retro.
Keep up the good work sorry for getting off track.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1511254&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
I too was thinking of going with the large lumenbright fixtures with 250w SE Reeflux 12k and 8x39w t-5 retro.
Keep up the good work sorry for getting off track.
Lowredranger
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Thanks Ed, probably Blue + and giesman pure acintic or a acintic of some sort.
Ed Reef
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Basically there are studies that shown that our eyes are train to look at things from left to right (cause that is basically the way we read, write, etc) and with that the ration that the eyes follows are usually the 5:3 ratio, which means on the left side is the 5 ratio and the right side is the 3 ratio.
The eyes seldom or can't focus on the center somehow?? so in aquascaping, we try to layout those rocks, corals, etc in accordance to how our eyes sees it as pleasing...!!
You can draw up your own symmetric lines to your tank and then mark out your own 5:3 ratio. Once that done, you can used it as a guide to your aquascape..!!
Hope it helps...!! :rollface:
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