Go Big OR Go Home! Construction of a 1000 gallon System!!
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jnarowe
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looks great. it's probably just distortion, but that stand looks too big to go through any normal doorway. maybe that's not the plan though. I used furniture dollys (3) and suction cups. with the dollys it was easy to move from outside to inside and into the room by removing the front dolly to go over doorways and then switching them. I got the 6 guys to get it onto the stand, and the whole thing is on the dollys now so I can move it around while I polish the tank, build the system and finish the room.
I dont know if Brian will be able to answer until later tonight, but the stand is actually about 60" in width. From the place the tank/cart is setting right now it will roll to the right if looking at that pic about 20' - 25' up into the back portion of the garage where the tank room is being built. The width of the opening into that back tank room area is about 8' wide, so there shouldn't be any problem at all pushing the tank straight back in there.
jnarowe
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more the better, even if a couple guys don't have a suction cup, they can step in where needed. I had 8 suction suction cups and that worked fine. 4 strong guys can lift my tank with 2 suction cup handles each. getting it lined up properly on top of the foam takes more finesse though.
Believe me, it's not a hard job, but it must be done as efficiently as possible, especially with a glass tank. Acrylic tanks have more give than glass so there is more flexibility. Glass really needs to be handled with respect. I don't understand why the plan is to remove the pallet, then move the whole cradle and tank to the stand area. I could understand it if the cradle was designed to go through standard doors. It sounds like there is an extra step that is unneccessary and increases the risk of the move.
Why not leave it on the pallet and lessen the lift as well as decrease the risk? I am sure there is some reason, but I can't figure it out.
Believe me, it's not a hard job, but it must be done as efficiently as possible, especially with a glass tank. Acrylic tanks have more give than glass so there is more flexibility. Glass really needs to be handled with respect. I don't understand why the plan is to remove the pallet, then move the whole cradle and tank to the stand area. I could understand it if the cradle was designed to go through standard doors. It sounds like there is an extra step that is unneccessary and increases the risk of the move.
Why not leave it on the pallet and lessen the lift as well as decrease the risk? I am sure there is some reason, but I can't figure it out.
bstone
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Jeremy B. said:I am trying to talk Brian into changing the date of which everyone is coming over to move it because as of right now there will only be 6 big guys total. I'm thinking 8 guys at the very minimum. Anyone else want to help me convince him of this?
Yea, Jeremy is so concerned about it that when I asked him to come on Tuesday evening he siad maybe, which means NO! :lol:
As of right now I will have 9 people, of which 6 of them are BIG - two of them are body builders! So, if we can't get it done then I will have no idea what to do! I will have 8 glass suction cups to use, which will make it much easier then trying to hold a corner. Also, we will only have to lift it about 2". And with the tank already being 38" off the ground the upper body wont be used, the legs will be.
the pallet looks wider than the tank. I would hate to be one of the guys on the side vs one or two of the guys at each end. The more guys you have easier it will be to gently set the tank on the foam.
2 of us moved a 10 foot glass tank once with another guy helping out as he could and helping us lift the tank up on a 4 foot stand. My arms "locked" in place. There was no way for me to bend them to lift the tank up. The more guys you have will most likely prevent this from happening.
This sounds like moving a pool table. We put 8 guys on a standard pool table and I nearly busted a gut. It is one of the heaviest things I have ever moved.
I'd ask some of my neighbors or even friends of my neighbors. It looks like you could get 4-5 on each side lengthwise and 1 or 2 at each end. That would be my goal.
Best of luck. Have someone take pics of the moving event. By the looks on the faces I will be able to tell just how heavy that monster tank is.
2 of us moved a 10 foot glass tank once with another guy helping out as he could and helping us lift the tank up on a 4 foot stand. My arms "locked" in place. There was no way for me to bend them to lift the tank up. The more guys you have will most likely prevent this from happening.
This sounds like moving a pool table. We put 8 guys on a standard pool table and I nearly busted a gut. It is one of the heaviest things I have ever moved.
I'd ask some of my neighbors or even friends of my neighbors. It looks like you could get 4-5 on each side lengthwise and 1 or 2 at each end. That would be my goal.
Best of luck. Have someone take pics of the moving event. By the looks on the faces I will be able to tell just how heavy that monster tank is.
bstone
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jnarowe said:
Good question about the pallet. The pallet sticks out really far. So, I could cut the pallet as it is on the cart and that would help a lot. I really don't want to cut it length wise because the pallet may not support the tank then and it might crush it. The ends could be cut off because they really aren't't supporting the tank right now anyway. If I do that then I can wheel the cart into position and then have 3 guys on each side and one on each back corner to lift and move over the stand. I will have to think about it some more. My biggest concern is the caster wheels on the cart, each are rated for 300+ lbs, I have a total of 6 underneath. Which means it should hold about 1800+ lbs before getting to a failure point. The tank weights around 1200 lbs. But, I like to worry!!
jnarowe
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don't worry about the casters. and PLEASE forget about anyone putting their fingers under this tank. Under no circumstances should anyone try to lift a corner. 9 poeple is plenty. you would have a hard time fitting any more.
My tank is 8' x 5' and there really isn't room for more than 2 on the end and 3 on a side.
I would cut the pallet down. If you are concerned about cutting it length wise, use a floor or bottle jack placed on blocks close to the pallet. jack up one end of the pallet slightly, make your cut, and re-install a removed piece under the tank to shorten up the pallet. You may have to do it in 2 pieces, but it will not be too hard and will give you better clearance when you get to the stand.
You could also do a people lift, and slide the pallet out part way so it is flush on the stand side of the cart, then let the tank back down. Then you roll it into position and make your move. I would definitely cut the ends off in any case.
My tank is 8' x 5' and there really isn't room for more than 2 on the end and 3 on a side.
I would cut the pallet down. If you are concerned about cutting it length wise, use a floor or bottle jack placed on blocks close to the pallet. jack up one end of the pallet slightly, make your cut, and re-install a removed piece under the tank to shorten up the pallet. You may have to do it in 2 pieces, but it will not be too hard and will give you better clearance when you get to the stand.
You could also do a people lift, and slide the pallet out part way so it is flush on the stand side of the cart, then let the tank back down. Then you roll it into position and make your move. I would definitely cut the ends off in any case.
bstone
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jnarowe said:
Maybe you misunderstood, the guy in the back corner will have a suction cup. I have a total of 8 suction cups, all the people lifting the tank will have a suction cup.
I plan on cutting the pallet, just haven't decided how much to cut yet. I need to determine what is under load and what isn't. But, the ends are not under load and will be cut off. Thanks for the input.
jnarowe
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got it. tanks looks great. After all the waitinig, it is a great relief when you finally see it on the stand. The way my room is, I had to bring the tank in before the walls were framed, so having the tank and stand on the dollys is really working out well.
Just be glad you don't have to buff your tank!!!
Just be glad you don't have to buff your tank!!!
EnglishRebel
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bstone
I know it's probably low on your priority totem pole right now (with the BIG lift coming up) but there's a new gadget out on the market that makes it easy to find and cut your outlet/switch boxes. Basically it's a plastic cover that is a tight fit on the inside of the box and it has a pin in the center. You snap these onto your boxes and just drywall right over the top - you don't even need to measure or mark where they are. When you slap on the sheet of drywall the pin pokes through and shows you where the box is. The plastic cover allows easy zip routing without any chance of cutting your wires.
Just a thought. I'm a gadget freak
I know it's probably low on your priority totem pole right now (with the BIG lift coming up) but there's a new gadget out on the market that makes it easy to find and cut your outlet/switch boxes. Basically it's a plastic cover that is a tight fit on the inside of the box and it has a pin in the center. You snap these onto your boxes and just drywall right over the top - you don't even need to measure or mark where they are. When you slap on the sheet of drywall the pin pokes through and shows you where the box is. The plastic cover allows easy zip routing without any chance of cutting your wires.
Just a thought. I'm a gadget freak
bstone
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EnglishRebel said:bstone
I know it's probably low on your priority totem pole right now (with the BIG lift coming up) but there's a new gadget out on the market that makes it easy to find and cut your outlet/switch boxes. Basically it's a plastic cover that is a tight fit on the inside of the box and it has a pin in the center. You snap these onto your boxes and just drywall right over the top - you don't even need to measure or mark where they are. When you slap on the sheet of drywall the pin pokes through and shows you where the box is. The plastic cover allows easy zip routing without any chance of cutting your wires.
Just a thought. I'm a gadget freak
That is awsome! Can you pick these up at Lowes, Home Depot, or other hardeware stores?
Thanks!
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