Thanks for your input David.
griss' Tank Upgrade Thread
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shred5
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Should probably explain myself.
I have only had two tank fail in my life and I have owned allot of tanks..
The first was a hex when I was probably twelve and was given to me. No idea how it was taken care of or how old it was.
Second was a Marineland. It was the 93 gallon cube they offer. If you look back even here on RC allot of people had issues with that tank.
I went to leak test it and the glue stretched and you could see hundreds of bubbles in the glue. It was extremely common too. They would not replace my tank because it was drilled. . So basically I had the throw out a brand new tank and stand. I had bought all equipment for it new and had to sell it all at a loss. I certainty was not going to try another tank by them with all the failures at the time.. I lost allot of money. To many failures and by the way that was clear silicone. There is two manufacturers I would not buy from Marineland and Red Sea. Both companies have to many failures and do not care.
Oh and I think Marineland eventually admitted to the failures and blamed it on the glue. Yippie do da where is my money..
I have only had two tank fail in my life and I have owned allot of tanks..
The first was a hex when I was probably twelve and was given to me. No idea how it was taken care of or how old it was.
Second was a Marineland. It was the 93 gallon cube they offer. If you look back even here on RC allot of people had issues with that tank.
I went to leak test it and the glue stretched and you could see hundreds of bubbles in the glue. It was extremely common too. They would not replace my tank because it was drilled. . So basically I had the throw out a brand new tank and stand. I had bought all equipment for it new and had to sell it all at a loss. I certainty was not going to try another tank by them with all the failures at the time.. I lost allot of money. To many failures and by the way that was clear silicone. There is two manufacturers I would not buy from Marineland and Red Sea. Both companies have to many failures and do not care.
Oh and I think Marineland eventually admitted to the failures and blamed it on the glue. Yippie do da where is my money..
BlennyfromtheBronx
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This looks like a pretty intricate setup- very cool.
The boys put up more drywall (finally) today. They were going to mud but, they didn’t seal the can last time they worked and it dried out. They said they will finish out the “family room” side of the walls next weekend.
I’ve decided for the inside the fish room walls, I’m going to use this. that will have to wait though…Mrs griss has a bucket list item to see a Cowboy’s game in AT&T stadium and we’re doing that next weekend.
I’ve decided for the inside the fish room walls, I’m going to use this. that will have to wait though…Mrs griss has a bucket list item to see a Cowboy’s game in AT&T stadium and we’re doing that next weekend.
Brian60077
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Can’t wait to see ot when it’s finished.
It’s gonna be a long haul. Gotta frame out and drywall another wall. Decided we’re going to do 3-4’ of ceramic where the tank will be and vinyl plank in the rest of the area.
Then, need to finish out the fish room.
Got a lot going on in real life. First grandkid turning 2, #2 on the way (March), spending time watching granddaughter and (4) grand dogs. Plus, this weekend is out…Mrs griss bucket list item to see a Cowboys game in Dallas.
Then, need to finish out the fish room.
Got a lot going on in real life. First grandkid turning 2, #2 on the way (March), spending time watching granddaughter and (4) grand dogs. Plus, this weekend is out…Mrs griss bucket list item to see a Cowboys game in Dallas.
Hong Kong
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And I was thinking how my progress is slow 
hahaha I personaly hate drywalls and this kind of building with
that i call this Chinese sticks Of course there is waterrepelent boards ect ect and even panels that you are
using Gips we call them but there is also concrete one with mesh inside and much harder for wall and durable.
Especially if humidity is over 60% that in your case maybe will not be as in basement with good air flow no issue.
My friend had a full living room walls with aquarium wet untill i told him to isolate outside walls with rockwool
at least 5-10 cm thick. in 1 day he glued and fixed isolation and placed one dehumidifier 20 liters per day sucked...
No more wet walls. Your dry wall is using simple wood plates? OSB plates? There is nice to place inside some isolation
there is many rockwools in market for this. Will help keep temperature well. Nice work in continue wishing.
hahaha I personaly hate drywalls and this kind of building with that i call this Chinese sticks
Of course there is waterrepelent boards ect ect and even panels that you are using Gips we call them but there is also concrete one with mesh inside and much harder for wall and durable.
Especially if humidity is over 60% that in your case maybe will not be as in basement with good air flow no issue.
My friend had a full living room walls with aquarium wet untill i told him to isolate outside walls with rockwool
at least 5-10 cm thick. in 1 day he glued and fixed isolation and placed one dehumidifier 20 liters per day sucked...
No more wet walls. Your dry wall is using simple wood plates? OSB plates? There is nice to place inside some isolation
there is many rockwools in market for this. Will help keep temperature well. Nice work in continue wishing.
I am not an HVAC person so please take this for what you feel it’s worth design wise.
If I’m looking at your pics correctly, the rectangular ductwork goes through the left wall from the pic in post 169, and then as it ends at the window, is transitioned to round ductwork. Am I thinking correctly?
If so, I’d “simply” move the rectangle to round transition to the wall where it’s passing through the TV room, run duct along the wall to the right and then along the I-beam back toward the window.
Kinda like this (excuse the rough drawing):
If I’m looking at your pics correctly, the rectangular ductwork goes through the left wall from the pic in post 169, and then as it ends at the window, is transitioned to round ductwork. Am I thinking correctly?
If so, I’d “simply” move the rectangle to round transition to the wall where it’s passing through the TV room, run duct along the wall to the right and then along the I-beam back toward the window.
Kinda like this (excuse the rough drawing):
No, I didn’t represent it well in the pics. I’ll try to get some better pics. The window is in the foundation wall. The square/rectangle duct ends about 10” from the window. The round duct exits the square duct (facing the window/foundation wall) on the right, moves closer to the window/foundation and up to the living room above. Hard to describe.
So, there’s *maybe* 10” between the end of the square duct and window and *maybe* 6-8” between the round duct and window. Both ducts hang down low enough to interfere with opening the window.
Hopefully, these pics will better show what I’m dealing with.
Pic 1 - the tank will be located where the TV is now. You can see the support beam and the square/rectangle duct is about 2.5 feet behind the beam running in the same direction. The window in question is to the right of the cat tree.
Pic 2 - shows how the beam and duct run parallel to one another.
Pic 3 - shows the window in question, support beam to the right, square/rectangle duct on the left and the round duct coming out of the square one going up to the living room above.
Pic 4 - is from underneath showing the window and both ducts. The square duct is 9” from the window frame and the round one is almost against the frame.
Pic 5 - shows that I cannot open the window because of the duct work.
So, I want to frame in (and drywall) around the window but, how do I frame with that freaking duct work in the way?
Pic 1 - the tank will be located where the TV is now. You can see the support beam and the square/rectangle duct is about 2.5 feet behind the beam running in the same direction. The window in question is to the right of the cat tree.
Pic 2 - shows how the beam and duct run parallel to one another.
Pic 3 - shows the window in question, support beam to the right, square/rectangle duct on the left and the round duct coming out of the square one going up to the living room above.
Pic 4 - is from underneath showing the window and both ducts. The square duct is 9” from the window frame and the round one is almost against the frame.
Pic 5 - shows that I cannot open the window because of the duct work.
So, I want to frame in (and drywall) around the window but, how do I frame with that freaking duct work in the way?
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Again not an HVAC guy but would moving the living room vent work? Or is that a feed to a second story? I would possibly move it behind the wood joist and then shorten the rectangle duct to line up.
If that’s not possible, perhaps switching out the curved ductwork with flexible duct may work but you’d likely lose some air flow due to the constriction of the flexible duct.
If that’s not possible, perhaps switching out the curved ductwork with flexible duct may work but you’d likely lose some air flow due to the constriction of the flexible duct.
Funny you mentioned that. I just assumed that duct went to a vent in the living room (behind the couch). But, there’s no vent on that side in the living room. After taking some measurements, it HAS to be a duct up to the second floor. If my measurements are correct, that duct goes into this partial wall between the living room and dining room. So, no moving that. Hmmm.
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Hmmm…put in a new window that’s a slider instead of tilt in? I’m honestly not sure
We never open those windows (total of 4 in the basement) so, that’s not a concern. The concern is, any framing I put in is going to further cover up the window and would not look nice at all.
The only way is to rework the ductwork. Look into some flat ductwork options to replace the round stuff. they have some pretty low profile pieces. I personally would also shorten back that main duct. I'm sure you know, but don't let any tin dinger cut any joists.
I think I’ll give my HVAC guy a call and see what he can do. We’ve used him for HVAC work for years.
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Left a message for my HVAC guy but after looking at this more, I don’t think he’s going to be able to do anything.
It goes up to the second story of the house directly above the support beam. On the other side of the beam is pipe going to the outside hose bib.
Might have to just do the best framing we can and partially cover the window with 2x4’s and drywall.
It goes up to the second story of the house directly above the support beam. On the other side of the beam is pipe going to the outside hose bib.
Might have to just do the best framing we can and partially cover the window with 2x4’s and drywall.
