Hang on skimmer reviews: prism pro deluxe VS aquac remora pro VS deltec MCE600
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Snarkys -- you might try beefier circulation pumps (seios / tunzes)than maxijets -- or go here (maxi-streaming mod threadid 717034) and see how dhnguyen basically turned maxijets into seios / tunzes. How much total flow do you have at this point? An overflow box will help break up surface film, but heavy duty flow will do better. 
Snarkys
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well i have two maxi jet 1200's pointed directly at the surface, there is pretty good surface turnover. i could add more expensive pumps and "maybe" help the problem or i could figure out a way to make a overflow box that isn't ugly and know for sure i solved the problem : )
sohal tang 1
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no way!
no way!
Well...eveyone is entitled to their opinion and mine is
I dont think anyone can easily copy the Deltec MCE600 hang on!
I am sure there was more engineering that went into making
this puppy work as well as it does other then acrylic work!
Tim
no way!
Well...eveyone is entitled to their opinion and mine is
I dont think anyone can easily copy the Deltec MCE600 hang on!
I am sure there was more engineering that went into making
this puppy work as well as it does other then acrylic work!
Tim
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Modifying your Maxijets should cost you maybe $10 and isn't a maybe -- tripling the flow on the surface would make a major difference. Besides, you've got a top of the line $500 skimmer, is expense REALLY an issue?
If you wanted a surface box, there are lots of DIY ideas out there
such as this one:
http://www.seahorse.org/library/articles/DIY/preSkimmer.shtml
Or you could buy a premade surface skimmer kit for a different skimmer and connect it -- not knowing the Deltec's intake pipe dimensions I can't be sure what will be easiest, but something like this should be easily adapted:
http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/store_pages/details/filters.php?product_ID=hg-fzskim
If you wanted a surface box, there are lots of DIY ideas out there
such as this one:
http://www.seahorse.org/library/articles/DIY/preSkimmer.shtml
Or you could buy a premade surface skimmer kit for a different skimmer and connect it -- not knowing the Deltec's intake pipe dimensions I can't be sure what will be easiest, but something like this should be easily adapted:
http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/store_pages/details/filters.php?product_ID=hg-fzskim
Re: no way!
Re: no way!
The ONLY thing different between all the different skimmers are the pumps.
A protein skimmer body isn't rocket science. It's either a box with baffles or a round tube. What makes one skimmer perform better than the next is the pump. That's it plain and simple. No magic involved here
D.
Re: no way!
The ONLY thing different between all the different skimmers are the pumps.
A protein skimmer body isn't rocket science. It's either a box with baffles or a round tube. What makes one skimmer perform better than the next is the pump. That's it plain and simple. No magic involved here
D.
sohal tang 1
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I disagree
I disagree
Well I am not a technical person but I have talked to people
that are very technically inclined and there is a HECK OF ALOT
MORE involved in a skimmer then just the pump!
If you believe that then you should stick with DIY types....
I have never seen a hang on work as well as the Deltec andddddd
if you are able to SIMPLY PRODUCE ONE as you say then
you should be RICH by now.....
Like the T-shirt says, "if you are so smart why are you not rich?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Just kidding.....please dont take offence....had to throw that in....
Any case...I am sure DIY have benefits but again I personally
do not believe they can be easily copied on a DIY basis...
Opinions will vary I am sure
Tim
I disagree
Well I am not a technical person but I have talked to people
that are very technically inclined and there is a HECK OF ALOT
MORE involved in a skimmer then just the pump!
If you believe that then you should stick with DIY types....
I have never seen a hang on work as well as the Deltec andddddd
if you are able to SIMPLY PRODUCE ONE as you say then
you should be RICH by now.....
Like the T-shirt says, "if you are so smart why are you not rich?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Just kidding.....please dont take offence....had to throw that in....
Any case...I am sure DIY have benefits but again I personally
do not believe they can be easily copied on a DIY basis...
Opinions will vary I am sure
Tim
Reefdaddy1
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Ya know for the cost of Deltec I would build my own, Its not to make money its to have fun building what you paid thousands for that I payed hundred for......Besides Who cares what you think,,,,,,,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA! Take no offense I just had to throw that in there. lol
sohal tang 1
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I am not confused.
I am not confused.
Reefdaddy....Dont give me the what I paid thousands for you paid hundreds.......Your DIY or ANYONE'S DIY are NOT A DELTEC period.....and if they ARE as good you are RICH and NO LONGER
NEED TO DIY hahahahahaaha
But in any case...heyyyyy if your happy man...thats all that is important....and again I am sure there are some awesome
DIY out there.... just the resale value on them I find is not that good....At least when I SELL a Deltec ...it is WORTH something to a potential buyer....
of course..WHO CARES about resale value eh? HAHAHAH
Gotcha!
Tim
:strooper:
I am not confused.
Reefdaddy....Dont give me the what I paid thousands for you paid hundreds.......Your DIY or ANYONE'S DIY are NOT A DELTEC period.....and if they ARE as good you are RICH and NO LONGER
NEED TO DIY hahahahahaaha
But in any case...heyyyyy if your happy man...thats all that is important....and again I am sure there are some awesome
DIY out there.... just the resale value on them I find is not that good....At least when I SELL a Deltec ...it is WORTH something to a potential buyer....
of course..WHO CARES about resale value eh? HAHAHAH
Gotcha!
Tim
:strooper:
Re: I disagree
Re: I disagree
Hmm... This thread IS about a "hang on" skimmer from Deltec versus another "hang on" skimmer (Aqua C Remora) so your comment about no hang on skimmers can complete with a Deltec seems extremely confused and uninformed at best.
There are DIY skimmers out there that will skim just as good as a Deltec and some of these are nothing more than just airstone driven skimmers even.
Did you really think there was some magic bullet and faerie dust involved in making a good skimmer? Well when you stated that you're not technical, that much is clear I guess
Re: I disagree
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6712035#post6712035 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sohal tang 1
Well I am not a technical person but I have talked to people
that are very technically inclined and there is a HECK OF ALOT
MORE involved in a skimmer then just the pump!
If you believe that then you should stick with DIY types....
I have never seen a hang on work as well as the Deltec andddddd
if you are able to SIMPLY PRODUCE ONE as you say then
you should be RICH by now.....
Like the T-shirt says, "if you are so smart why are you not rich?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Just kidding.....please dont take offence....had to throw that in....
Any case...I am sure DIY have benefits but again I personally
do not believe they can be easily copied on a DIY basis...
Opinions will vary I am sure
Tim
Hmm... This thread IS about a "hang on" skimmer from Deltec versus another "hang on" skimmer (Aqua C Remora) so your comment about no hang on skimmers can complete with a Deltec seems extremely confused and uninformed at best.
There are DIY skimmers out there that will skim just as good as a Deltec
and some of these are nothing more than just airstone driven skimmers even.Did you really think there was some magic bullet and faerie dust involved in making a good skimmer? Well when you stated that you're not technical, that much is clear I guess
Snarkys
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Re: no way!
Re: no way!
there isn't anything magic happening in the box : )
it is just an acrylic box with baffles that could easily be measured out and duplicated. I'm not sure why you think a home made one with the exact same dimensions and made out of the same materials would work any differently than deltecs.
the issue here is do you already have the tools/skills to do this and how much is your time worth to you. Designing the skimmer would be difficult. Reverse engineering it and copying a design you already know works is easy. I personaly don't have the skills and would have the buy the tools for the project so it would cost me much more to build it than to buy it.
BTW i think it has been hashed out over and over here on RC and the general consensus is the reason why deltecs perform better than some of the cheaper models is mostly just the higher quality expensive pumps that they use.
Re: no way!
there isn't anything magic happening in the box : )
it is just an acrylic box with baffles that could easily be measured out and duplicated. I'm not sure why you think a home made one with the exact same dimensions and made out of the same materials would work any differently than deltecs.
the issue here is do you already have the tools/skills to do this and how much is your time worth to you. Designing the skimmer would be difficult. Reverse engineering it and copying a design you already know works is easy. I personaly don't have the skills and would have the buy the tools for the project so it would cost me much more to build it than to buy it.
BTW i think it has been hashed out over and over here on RC and the general consensus is the reason why deltecs perform better than some of the cheaper models is mostly just the higher quality expensive pumps that they use.
Snarkys
.Registered Member
Re: Re: I disagree
Re: Re: I disagree
depends on how you interpret the word compete i guess : )
i can compete with a, Olympic track star but they will always beat me by a mile ....
after using these three models it is my "opinion" that they can all compete i guess but none of them come even remotely close to how the deltec performs. I challenge you to find one person who would disagree and has owned this deltec and any other hang on . so far the only people who says their skimmer is as good or almost as good are just guessing because they have never tried the deltec.
Re: Re: I disagree
depends on how you interpret the word compete i guess : )
i can compete with a, Olympic track star but they will always beat me by a mile ....
after using these three models it is my "opinion" that they can all compete i guess but none of them come even remotely close to how the deltec performs. I challenge you to find one person who would disagree and has owned this deltec and any other hang on . so far the only people who says their skimmer is as good or almost as good are just guessing because they have never tried the deltec.
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