Horrible LFS "Recommendations" and "Facts"!

I've always been fond of the " dwarf horseshoe crab"

Haha, I saw that pitch made to someone the other day at my LFS. "Only $11.99! and they're much smaller than what you see at the beach."

Ummm.. yeah. Because they're babies.


I, unfortunately, went for this one- "We don't have any nassarius snails in stock. We do have a sand sifting star which is pretty and will take care of any detritus and leftover food on the bottom."

Mine's insatiable and I'm posting it to a local club site to give away. I should have googled before I agreed to it...
 
Blue gravel (not sand, blue aquarium gravel)- he said it'd make the colors pop
the stuff to "instantly cycle" and tap water dechlorinator.
Plastic decor and plants (no rocks)
salt
and a yellow tang with a pair of clowns. all the same day.
he also told me tap water was OK to use. Mix with salt and instant cycle, check salinity then throw the fish in.


EDIT: This LFS is no longer in business. I wonder why.

What's funny, and sad, is that unfortunately, there's a balance that needs to be struck to appeal to the novices, and cater to the long-time hobbyists. It's not easy for many owners to balance the hobby with the business.

The best one near me probably appears to a newbie to be "bad" because they guy and his wife focus on corals and are very, very, very picky about the types of fish they sell and specimens of each type that they'll keep. They also make it clear (they have a big sign on the door and by the register) that they're hobbyists first and business people second. They say they will ask about your tank and they will refuse to sell you a fish, invert, or coral if they don't think you have the right setup.

To a newbie, it might appear that they are A) rude and unhelpful, and B) struggling to stay in business because they have so few fish. But to the people in the area who have been in the hobby for a while, it's the only place they shop because the livestock is perfect, and the knowledge of the owners can't be topped. They've been in business for 12 years, but it would be easy to see why a shop like theirs wouldn't make it.

On the flip side, there are a few places nearby that always have TONS of fish in their tanks and will sell any customer anything and do it with a smile. What the newbie sees is "good service!" "great selection!" "so helpful!" "doing a great business!" What the long-time hobbyist sees is "overcrowded tanks!" "sick fish!" "sleazy, unethical sales!" "pushing product just to stay in the black!"

When I started my first tank over 10 years ago, I was a sucker for the latter. I bought a lot of sick fish, took a lot of bad advice (cycle with damsels, crappy fake decor- some of which I still have and use along with actual live rock because it looks OK when covered in coralline, etc.). Coming back to the hobby, I'm still making mistakes (scraping my spaghetti worm's tentacles off the glass because I was convinced it was cyno), but I've at least learned to see through the B.S. to an extent (see my sand-sifting star story).
 
Although There are good and bad LFSs, which do have lots of cring worthy advice, I'm +1ing what Sk8tr said. If you're new to the hobby, first fish tank ever (we all did at one point) why would you have any reason to think that the specialty fishstore doesn't know everything you need to know about setting up the tank and livestock advice? I probably would have belived most anything they said before I got into the hobby. Then the new comer comes on here asking advice to hear that the LFS steared them WAY in the wrong direction? that can be a tough one to take right after you just dropped a bunch of $ on a setup. Just makes it all that much more important to have good LFSs.

On that note, I have to contribute an actual comment: "If you add a large enough clean up crew, your tank won't go through a cycle because they will just eat all of the detritus"
 
"that's not ich, some sand blew around and got stuck on the fish"

That's was said to another customer while I was "window" shopping, I waited until the clerk left and quickly told the other customer that it was most likely either ich or velvet
 
My first fish tank was a 10 gallon and I got it at a local Wal-Mart, along with a really cheap air powered HOB filter,a lid, 2 incandescent lights (one red and one blue), and 7 comet goldfish. A week later they all died so I went to a pet store and was told my fish were swimming in a toxic sludge. Thus was the beginning of my pain. Now I am the care taker of a 560 gallon salt water tank FOWLR, with several hermit crabs, lots of choc. chip sea stars, 3 fish, and enough aptasia to make a carpet. Oh and I donated the horse shoe crab my wife bought for $12. Unfortunately it died a month later and I'm not sure why, and I'm not sure I want another one.

I'm not a fan of our LFS
 
Indirect, but...

Was looking around a LFS about 20 years back, little kid and his mother were ooohing and ahhing over a 3" blue ring octopus. Said they had a 20g salt tank... guy was ready to sell it to them, telling them how hardy they were, easy to take care of... never mentioning that the damn thing was potentially lethal.

He was mad as hell at me for killing the sale. One shop I never went back in.

Used to be fairly common, but I haven't seen one in a pet store in many years. Hopefully, I never will again.
 
"Pods what pods, I feed the Mandarins the same stuff as the other fish. This one here has been in the shop for 2 months."
 
"Yes, this pipefish is very hardy and easy to care for." I ask,"What does it eat?" Guy replies, "We haven't gotten it to eat though." That was one of the employees
 
"Do you have any reef safe starfish?" "Yes, that one" "My last one ate the coral" "Normal, they eat dead corals" "No, it ate it live, donut coral" "Oh really?" *conversation ends here*
 
There was a bleached out long tentacle anemome in this lfs that I don't go to at all for anything anymore and this was when I first got into the hobby. This was the icing on the cake, but so much bad information they gave me for someone just starting out.

"Its a white torch anemone." really, interesting. 150$ bucks trying to sell it for, lmao
 
My LFS is actually pretty good and I've seen them deny a few people from buying stuff like tangs after discussing what kind of aquarium they have. Although one day a guy came in and told me and the associate helping (Really young kid) "I setup a 55 Gallon Aquarium last week and already have a Blue Hippo, a Lionfish (Volitan), and a tessalata eel" (Said it with pride). I told him kindly to return all 3 and finish a fishless cycle. He left with a spiny box puffer.......

I complained to the owner and needless to say this kid lied on his resume regarding experience with aquariums..... Didn't see him after that.
 
Didn't have a LFS near me until I moved to college. But this is what a petco employee told some little boy and his dad...

"If you buy the clownfish you have to buy the anemone too or they will be unhappy. Dont worry they arent that hard to take care of"

Note: it was a condy anemone and the clowns were not hosting it in the tank...
 
If a Petco employee knows anything it's knowledge they had prior to Petco.

The only thing you'll from them is to push premium cat and dog food.


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When I first started with a marine aquarium, I was seeing the owner of the LFS. I spent many days in there as an unpaid salesman helping people with their systems. Often, they would get mad at me because I would not sell them something because they were not ready for it. I would even tell them that if they wanted to, I couldn't stop them from going to our competitor and buying the creature, and many times, that's exactly what they did. They invariably came back a few weeks later, hat in hand, and listened to what I had to say, and went on to become very loyal customers.

Now, when I go into one certain store (not often, I get too mad, and NOT Petco)) I will listen to what an employee is telling a customer, wait for the employee to walk away, and give them the straight scoop, including this and a couple other websites. I have been asked to leave said store before. When I next go back, it's all new staff, so it happens again.

Living creatures are, well, living. If we choose to remove them from where they belong, it is our responsibility to do our very best to provide them the most optimal living conditions we can.

Not too long ago, I went to a local Reef Only store, where the employee told me, after asking about my system, that it was a time bomb about to blow up and that I needed this and this and this.......... I thanked him for the information, and left. Haven't been back. My system, although upgraded/upsized a few times over the years, has been running in the same manner for over 25 years. Either I have gotten very lucky, or someone wanted to make a sale. Hmmmmmmmm Much to ponder there.
 
"If you buy the clownfish you have to buy the anemone too or they will be unhappy. Dont worry they arent that hard to take care of"
I actually second that, my Clowns keep dying if they don't have their own personal anemone/host...
But after that is just wrong
 
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