I Fragged My Carpet Last Night
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True but....
It has definately grown since. I was well aware of its size before collected and since then I have noticed big differences. Here is what it looked like when it first started out with bluecarpet, than to me and recently.
When Bluecarpet first got it
When I first got it
Pictures taken about 3 weeks ago...even bigger now
Well the carpet has definately become a much finer blue since luckily to my liking. T5s make the difference. I agree with your analogoy about skin tanning with people.
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
Unless you made a very long trip recently, I think you missed phender's point.
phender
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OK here we go, anemone pictures at day 6.
Instead of closing the circle both anemones seem to be going into a "swirl". The anemone in the tank has not found a spot where it feels completely comfortable as yet, but its staying in the same general area. The feet are firmly planted on both individuals and the verrucae are sticking to the substrate. They are still catching small pieces of food and the edges of the disks (skirts) are folding up around the food sometimes. I don't know if they are receiving any nutrition from this or not.
It has occured to me that I haven't included any of my tank or water conditions. I will do some tests and post that tomorrow.
Here is a pic of the tank anemone and a close-up of the mouth. The tentacles are still not as inflated as I would like, but I'm not very worried about it at this point.
Here's the basket anemone and a shot of the bottom of the foot showing how the spots turn into stripes. The tentalces on this anemone are about 80% normal.
Instead of closing the circle both anemones seem to be going into a "swirl". The anemone in the tank has not found a spot where it feels completely comfortable as yet, but its staying in the same general area. The feet are firmly planted on both individuals and the verrucae are sticking to the substrate. They are still catching small pieces of food and the edges of the disks (skirts) are folding up around the food sometimes. I don't know if they are receiving any nutrition from this or not.
It has occured to me that I haven't included any of my tank or water conditions. I will do some tests and post that tomorrow.
Here is a pic of the tank anemone and a close-up of the mouth. The tentacles are still not as inflated as I would like, but I'm not very worried about it at this point.
Here's the basket anemone and a shot of the bottom of the foot showing how the spots turn into stripes. The tentalces on this anemone are about 80% normal.
ricordiaking
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I'm happy that they are doing well, in the other threads how long do they say they take to heal?
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8108011#post8108011 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
Unless you made a very long trip recently, I think you missed phender's point.
I got the point:thumbsup:
Who is?
Phil, will your carpets ever heal back into a circle like shape or is it going to heal in a swirl way?
phender
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You know, I'm not really sure. Anthony Calfo seemed to feel that they should be ready to frag again in 12 weeks. Most of the threads I have seen have dealt with BTAs or small Haddoni. They seemed to heal in a couple days.
My guess is that the swirl is just a temporary way to protect its exposed mouth/stomach. There seems to be some tissue repair/growth going on underneath the anemone.
By cutting this anemone in half, I removed a lot of tissue. Their just wasn't enough tissue left to pull together and close the wound. I am going to have to be patient and not expect miracles. Even in a simple animal, this much repair takes time.
55semireef
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Phender, do carpets curl up after a big water change the next day?
RedSonja
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My recent experience of dividing an RBTA would agree with that. Mine was +/- 6" across the oral disk, it was cut August 23rd and within 48 hours both halves had pulled their foot around the cut and were healing well. Now at almost 3 weeks post-division both clones are almost as large as the original animal and again eating very well. I have pictures of some of the process and just took some again tonight, that I will post when I have time.
BUT this was a healthy animal fed daily for 3 months, in a 100g stock tank with lots of light and non-linear flow, that I acquired as a healthy captive-bred clone. I wouldn't try it that soon with a wild-caught animal that was stressed from collecting and shipping. In fact I bought a small bright neon green BTA from an LFS two weeks ago that is almost certainly wild-caught and I think it will be much more than 12 weeks before it's ready to divide. It's grown and eats like a little green piglet but I think, as someone else said, it's making up for lost time and trying to regain its proper size.
And to the OP, you are a brave man. It was nerve-wracking to me, taking a razor to a 6" RBTA even though I'd seen Anthony do it at SaltwaterU2. Cutting that large carpet that you'd had for years... big big kudos to you. Very sorry for your fish loss, but thanks for sharing the knowledge. Hopefully it will help others to successfully propagate anemones without losing other tank inhabitants.
-Sonja
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I also know Phender has given me ideas in the distant future 
BonsaiNut
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phender
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Sonja, Thanks for sharing your experience. I would love to see some of your pics on this thread.
I decided to switch my anemones. The one that was in the basket is now in the tank and vice versa. The one that was in the basket is the bigger of the halves. It has more of the column and base. I tried to make it as equal as I could, but when you are trying to make sure you divide the mouth equally, the column and base don't always line up perfectly under the mouth.
My tank specs are as follows:
Tank - 48x14x17 tall 50 gals
Lights - 4 x 65 watts PCs. 2- 10K, 2 - actinic (They are driven by 96 watts ballasts, I don't know if that affects the light or not)
Sump - ~ 20gal
Skimmer - ASM G1
Water quality:
Ca - 420 ppm
dKH - 9.2
Mg - 1200 (a little low)
Nitrate - 2 ppm
S.G. - 1.024
Here's a pic of the former "basket half". The tentacles are more dense than the other one. They both caught mysis today. The one that is now in the basket made a definate feeding response by pulling the shrimp deeper within its tentacles.
I decided to switch my anemones. The one that was in the basket is now in the tank and vice versa. The one that was in the basket is the bigger of the halves. It has more of the column and base. I tried to make it as equal as I could, but when you are trying to make sure you divide the mouth equally, the column and base don't always line up perfectly under the mouth.
My tank specs are as follows:
Tank - 48x14x17 tall 50 gals
Lights - 4 x 65 watts PCs. 2- 10K, 2 - actinic (They are driven by 96 watts ballasts, I don't know if that affects the light or not)
Sump - ~ 20gal
Skimmer - ASM G1
Water quality:
Ca - 420 ppm
dKH - 9.2
Mg - 1200 (a little low)
Nitrate - 2 ppm
S.G. - 1.024
Here's a pic of the former "basket half". The tentacles are more dense than the other one. They both caught mysis today. The one that is now in the basket made a definate feeding response by pulling the shrimp deeper within its tentacles.
RedSonja
Premium Member
I had that problem as well, tried to divide the mouth equally and ended up with one clone noticeably smaller than the other because of it. It doesn't seem to have mattered much in my case.
I have both clones in a basket clamped to the top of the stock tank so I can keep an eye on them and feed them, and make sure they get good light and flow. That was where the original anemone lived pre-division and it's worked well so far.
I'll get organized and post pix ASAP. We're in the middle of several projects to get ready for a new tank as well as gearing up for MACNA so life's pretty crazy.
-Sonja
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