So how are you guys with the Tunze hooking it up to the 100? I started out using the Sedra. Now I can't figure out how the outlet on the Tunze is supposed to hook in to the skimmer. The white piece of plastic that my sedra used doesn't fit in to the threaded end of the Tunze. Is there something else that I should have gotten with my pump? I'm assuming it's a threaded piece of pvc that goes in to it. Anyone have pics how how their Tunze hooks in to the 100?
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jtarmitage
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Yep, just a piece of pvc that's threaded on one end.
bk_market
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im trying to decide if i should get the cone 100 or not because with the pump it gonna run at least 400$
while the my other option im considering is octopus extreme 200 that is ~300$
I have a 90g fully stock mix reef with 4 clowns, 2 tangs, 1 angel, 3 chromis.
I have 10g fuge and 15g sump.
I am currently running octopus NW200 with mesh mod.
Do you guys think if I should upgrade to new skimmer at all? will i see a big different from the skimmer I already have and which one is the winner between octopus extreme 200 and cone 100.
while the my other option im considering is octopus extreme 200 that is ~300$
I have a 90g fully stock mix reef with 4 clowns, 2 tangs, 1 angel, 3 chromis.
I have 10g fuge and 15g sump.
I am currently running octopus NW200 with mesh mod.
Do you guys think if I should upgrade to new skimmer at all? will i see a big different from the skimmer I already have and which one is the winner between octopus extreme 200 and cone 100.
flat broke
New member
I've had an Octo Extreme 160 and now have an Itech 100 and the 100 is hands down better on my system. Granted, you'd be looking at a larger skimmer in the Octo Extreme 200 compared to my old 160, but they both use a single Sicce 2500. Don't get me wrong, the new ATB pinwheels for the Sicces, probably help the 200 a little, but my aquabee/Itech 100 pulls darker, nastier stuff, and does it far more quietly than my Octo Extreme 160.
Performance asside, the Itech is WAAAY beefier. It is built as tough as my old Euroreef CS 6 which says a lot. I'm super pleased with John at Itech's service, the product works awesome, and it's built really well.
Chris
Performance asside, the Itech is WAAAY beefier. It is built as tough as my old Euroreef CS 6 which says a lot. I'm super pleased with John at Itech's service, the product works awesome, and it's built really well.
Chris
tangtang clown
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You can put a sicce on your NW200. I started with the NW200 Recirc model and I know have the Extreme 200 with mesh and PPW. I am very interested in the Itechs.
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
What makes you say there is "too much air"? Is the water level as low as you can make it (output fully open)? If not, try lowering the water level more.
I wouldn't think it possible that the 400 couldn't handle 2 Sicces. Maybe post a photo of the skimmer running?
I wouldn't think it possible that the 400 couldn't handle 2 Sicces. Maybe post a photo of the skimmer running?
There was way too much turbulence in the body and the skimmer was overflowing. John thought I might have gotten a "hot pump" we tried 1 of the older impellers and lowering the skimmer depth but kept going crazy.(output wide open) Now the body is back to 7" depth with 1 old and 1 new impeller and the turbulence is gone but still skimming really really wet. I'm begining to think it's something to do with my water. So I've restricted the air a bit to see if I can skim whatevae it may be out. My water tests are all normal and everything in tank looks happy so I don't know what it could be. Any guesses?
Merfin70
Premium Member
I don't have my I-Tech (yet) so I can only speak for my old skimmer. For whatever reason, water changes once I switched over to D-D H2Ocean Salt as well as Seachem Reef Plus dosing sent my skimmer into crazy overflow mode for a day. I know its not the right thing to do but I've found that a drop or two of Selcon quiets it down and within a couple of hours its back to normal. Without it, it overflows for a day or more.
flat broke
New member
Too much water throughput? Did you try reducing the pump inlet diameter?
flat broke
New member
I definitely don't want to sour a great thread, or otherwise detract from the great service I've received from John, or my happiness with his product; but I have to point out the irony of your post. You requested ideas for dealing with a skimmer that can't get to your desired operational standard with the adjustments available in it's current configuration; but when someone offers a suggestion, you quickly dismiss it.
In my relatively limited experience with Sicce pumps, I can comfortably say that they aren't the most consistent pumps in terms of performance from one pump to the next. Because of this, you may need to experiment with inlet restriction to achieve the air/water ratio that works best for your skimmer body. Before I received my machined restrictor/venturi from John for my 100, I was using a DIY restrictor. Changes as small as 1/64 of an inch in the diameter of the inlet restriction made an observable difference in turbulence and skimmate production. It's not about changing John's design, but rather assuring that the Sicces are putting out the correct air/water ratio.
I'm sure you've been in contact with John and or Chris at I-tech. If you give them good info, like video of the skimmer, solid dimensional information of your setup etc, they'll get you dialed in. But you asked for suggestions, and I was merely pointing you in a direction that can have a measurable impact on skimmer performance.
Chris
So how is it without you nowing all there is to know about my particular setup that you are able to say that I'm getting too much water throughput. You just said that the manufacturer him self would need video and what not to get me dialed in. I guess I should have been a little more clear on my last post and said that I'm not willing to change the design at this point unless John recomended it.
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bimmerzs
BadMotorScooter
He just offered a suggestion like you asked for so no need to be defensive. A skimmer works on the principle of perfect air/waterbubbles ratio's for a specific body, air pretty much makes the bubbles, pump provides water, venturi mixes them at the proper ratio and you adjust the riser pipe to tune for wet or dry skimmate. If the riser is wide open and you are overflowing then that normally means you have too much water. Either the pump(s) is pumping too much or the skimmer is sitting too deep. Of course that's a basic overview but that's most likely why he mentioned water throughput.
Cheers,
I didn't mean to sound defensive I'm a little frustrated at this point is all. He has a great point in that the sicce pumps seem to be very inconsistent. Mine act different every time I turn them on which makes it impossible to tell if any adjustments I've made (water depth etc.) are a step in the right direction. Are the tunze pumps any better in this respect?
bimmerzs
BadMotorScooter
Well...the suggestion I have is that you put the skimmer at the recommended depth and leave it there. Open the riser fully and plug in one pump at a time and make note of the water level in the body. Repeat this several times to see if you get the same result's, then perform the same test with the other pump. Also with both pumps on, adjust the riser until the foam is right at the bottom of the cup and leave it there, if it rises keep adjusting it back to that height until it stays there then leave it there overnight if possible. If it is still at that height the next day then make a very small adjustment, small as in barely moving it, keep this up until you get the performance. Remember...alway's make small adjustment then wait for the level to settle before readjusting.
Cheers,
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