ID - I assume this is a jellyfish but what kind?

jdcook72

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Yet another request to identify what someone thinks is a jellyfish. I have searched the forum and found some other requests with accompanying pictures or video of what seems to be identical to what I have and it is often identified as a hydroid jellyfish. Upon doing multiple image searches for hydroid jellyfish, I never find anything that looks the same though. One responder assured a poster that it was a hydroid jellyfish, just a less common variety.

I have some pictures and videos as well and hopefully this will help us to positively identify just what this guy really is. The first video is from February of this year. For perspective, that is 1/2 Loc-Line, there is also some time I pulled back to give a better sense of size compared to the rest of the tank. I'd say at the time it was maybe 1/4" across the bell. This wasn't the first time I'd seen this in the tank and I've even seen two at the same time in the tank but they have always disappeared. I assume they get pulled into the back and through the filter.

The pictures and second video are from this morning. I never see it free swimming anymore, it is always parked with its bell on the glass, gently pulsating. I haven't seen it swim for a number of months, not since it was about double its size in the original video. It has been on the glass since then, its exact location changes from morning to morning, more so when it was smaller, but not usually by more than a few inches anymore. At the end of the video, I place my index finger on the glass for some perspective. I'd say the bell is now bigger than a nickel but smaller than a quarter.

Instead of a single little mushroom stalk under the bell, there are definitely little tentacles developing and branching out. Some of them have what look to be little bubble tips on them which makes me wonder if this is actually some type of anemone and what looks like a jellyfish bell will actually become the foot? The pipefish and other critters haven't seemed to be bothered by it but as it continues to get bigger I'm beginning to wonder if it should come out. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

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it looks like a jellyfish to me, but I can't say for sure. however, if you think it could be a problem soon, then perhaps you should carefully remove it.
 
I'm not really familiar with jellyfish other than being aware that some can sting very severely and therefore assuming that some don't? If I could identify what this is, I could make an informed decision to leave or remove it from the tank. A couple pair of seahorses will eventually be going in the tank so it's likely that it will be coming out regardless. However if it was identified as completely benign then it would be nice to keep it in there for some diversity; it is pretty cool looking.
 
I think we have a winner! Based on some additional pictures, reading and descriptions of behavior, I would say that is what is in the tank. It is pretty cool but unfortunately it will have to come out. It is stinging and can get upwards of a foot across.

Based on how the behavior is described, spending most of its time on the ground, it seems like it would be a good candidate for someone wanting to keep jellyfish without creating a specialized setup as would be needed to keep other types of jellyfish. It's been doing fine in this tank and I think its large enough now to not be so concerned about it going through the overflows. It's too bad this is a seahorse tank as it seems like a cool little (for now) guy to have in there. From the reading I did, it is kind of like a little bit of a jellyfish, anemone and zoanthid all rolled together. I think the owner at the local saltwater shop will be happy when we bring him in.
 
Jellyfish, Tank... Tank, Jellyfish

But seriously, it just showed up one day. There have been two or three in the past like the little tiny one in the first video but this is the first one that has stuck (literally) around and gotten big like this. There have been no additions to the tank either, nothing new in over a year. They just show up? Technically we do introduce new things to the tank when we add brine shrimp for feeding sometimes but we hatch those, sometimes from regular eggs and sometimes from decapsulated eggs but nothing "from the wild."
 
Right now there's just various cleanup crew and a pair of blue stripe pipe fish. There were two pairs of erectus seahorses in there before for over a year and then I think the water temp got a little too high for a few days and tail rot set in on one and eventually spread to the others. It was very sad. We had been trying to raise the fry and my wife was getting better and better with each batch. I had put together a separate nursery setup but I don’t think I ever got the filtration quite right and then there was an issue with aiptasia, ugh. Despite all that my wife was able to get one of the fry to make it over 120 days, he was getting pretty big, over an inch. He had moved back into the main tank and was doing well and then the tail rot issue and he was the last to die. Very, very sad. I seen the pipefish carrying eggs regularly but I've never been able to catch any of the fry before they get eaten, sucked into the filter or whatever happens to them? It would be very cool to be able to raise some pipefish fry.

Now, the aiptasia issue has been eradicated, I have nursery setup 2.0 online with much improved flow, filtration and water volume. Just need to get the live rock in and cycled and we'll be ready to give it another go.
 
Maybe it came on some live rock

Very possible but as I said before, nothing new has gone into that tank for a very long time before the jellies started and continued to show up. That includes livestock, live rock or anything except water changes, reactor media and the aforementioned brine shrimp with other frozen and flake/powder/pellet foods. Of course I've heard stranger stories regarding hitchhikers surviving amazing conditions for long periods of time before getting back into water and resuming where they left off...
 
its an upside down jelly. tons of them all over the keys. if he stays on the bottom and doesnt move too much it should be ok. Swimming around will lead him into a powerhead or overflow.
 
Jellyfish come from a single small polyp, looks like a half a grain of rice. They strobilate when conditions are right and they will look like a stack of pancakes, again, very small. This little polyp can be on any hard surface in the tank/sump. Not really found in turbulent areas. The polyps can live for years and produce countless jellyfish.
 
Jellyfish come from a single small polyp, looks like a half a grain of rice. They strobilate when conditions are right and they will look like a stack of pancakes, again, very small. This little polyp can be on any hard surface in the tank/sump. Not really found in turbulent areas. The polyps can live for years and produce countless jellyfish.

+1. Jellyfish and corals are very similar in phases of their reproduction. Some jelly fish can reproduce from polyps as well as asexual budding, some reproduce sexually. Neat find, hope it makes it!
 
I worked at a large public aquarium in Monterey County, and they have polyps that have been there for over 25 years. If you don't like the upside down jellyfish, I suggest finding that/those polyps.
 
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