keeping hedgehogs w/in salt H20 design?
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According to the Hedgehog Environmental Liberation League, hedgehogs can be quite volatile when placed in an alien environment. They must be delicately prepared prior to the "drop". There are no hard-and-fast rules, however the following may serve as a suitable example...place the hedgehog in a supine position on a flat surface with soft lighting (preferably candle light), play soothing and intoxicating music such as one would find on a John Tesh album, open a bottle of vintage pinot noir and pour an ounce in an eye-dropper, with rubber sterile gloves (latex-free) stroke the belly of the hedgehog while whispering romantic sonnets in an Italian accent, using the eye-dropper expel the entire ounce of wine directly into the hedgehog's mouth, when the animal is fully relaxed as evidenced by the release of bowel and bladder content, carefully cradle him/her in your palms and procede to "the drop". Hope this helps.
jellystomper
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Unakidney,
thankyou so much for sharing your experience. I've been working with my hogs (Lance, Mellissa, and Shady Daze) for the last several hours. There wasn't much of a response to the music until I switched "Come Flaunt With Me: the Best of John Tesh" to "The Very Serious Business Of Gettin' It On and In General Living by Barry White" The specimens responded with abandon. Mellissa found here own corner as "her" space and Lance and Shady Daze were very persistant in invading said space.
Appreciate the help,
remember photos will give us a better idea how to proceed.
Yours,
Jelly
thankyou so much for sharing your experience. I've been working with my hogs (Lance, Mellissa, and Shady Daze) for the last several hours. There wasn't much of a response to the music until I switched "Come Flaunt With Me: the Best of John Tesh" to "The Very Serious Business Of Gettin' It On and In General Living by Barry White" The specimens responded with abandon. Mellissa found here own corner as "her" space and Lance and Shady Daze were very persistant in invading said space.
Appreciate the help,
remember photos will give us a better idea how to proceed.
Yours,
Jelly
ribs
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Follow me: Step by Step of my Hog
Since my best buddy got a case of hogslime, I tried one thing to get rid of it, then gave up trying.
But I decided to do something else, and thought I'd share my progress with you all.
Here he is with the hogslime
After surrendering to the dreaded hogslime after treating with one dose of epsom salt (with unsatisfactory results), I just placed him "bellybutton" side down on the table and pressed.
I then placed him "bellybutton" side down (important) on an open sandy spot in front of my reeftank. It's now tuesday night and I think it looks great so far:
My MH photoperiod is 12 hrs./day, do you think it will bleach out in the open, but down on the sandbed? Tank is 24" tall, and the MH is 12" above the top, which makes it close to 36" away.
Since my best buddy got a case of hogslime, I tried one thing to get rid of it, then gave up trying.
But I decided to do something else, and thought I'd share my progress with you all.
Here he is with the hogslime
After surrendering to the dreaded hogslime after treating with one dose of epsom salt (with unsatisfactory results), I just placed him "bellybutton" side down on the table and pressed.
I then placed him "bellybutton" side down (important) on an open sandy spot in front of my reeftank. It's now tuesday night and I think it looks great so far:
My MH photoperiod is 12 hrs./day, do you think it will bleach out in the open, but down on the sandbed? Tank is 24" tall, and the MH is 12" above the top, which makes it close to 36" away.
jellystomper
New member
Wonderful Posts. Photos galore! It lookcs like some specimens are actually able to sleep as evidenvced by photos. This should help keep the CO/O2 balance in check.
Luv them photos,
reef em carpn"
Luv them photos,
reef em carpn"
jellystomper
New member
unakidnney
unakidnney
Unakideneym
once acllimaited where to go from there? My stpecicmens seem to be flitteriing about and making constant contact with specimen"003472-a447 (Mellissa)
is this normal?
QUOTE]Originally posted by unakidne
According to the Hedgehog Environmental Liberation League, hedgehogs can be quite volatile when placed in an alien environment. They must be delicately prepared prior to the "drop". There are no hard-and-fast rules, however the following may serve as a suitable example...place the hedgehog in a supine position on a flat surface with soft lighting (preferably candle light), play soothing and intoxicating music such as one would find on a John Tesh album, open a bottle of vintage pinot noir and pour an ounce in an eye-dropper, with rubber sterile gloves (latex-free) stroke the belly of the hedgehog while whispering romantic sonnets in an Italian accent, using the eye-dropper expel the entire ounce of wine directly into the hedgehog's mouth, when the animal is fully relaxed as evidenced by the release of bowel and bladder content, carefully cradle him/her in your palms and procede to "the drop". Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
unakidnney
Unakideneym
once acllimaited where to go from there? My stpecicmens seem to be flitteriing about and making constant contact with specimen"003472-a447 (Mellissa)
is this normal?
QUOTE]Originally posted by unakidne
According to the Hedgehog Environmental Liberation League, hedgehogs can be quite volatile when placed in an alien environment. They must be delicately prepared prior to the "drop". There are no hard-and-fast rules, however the following may serve as a suitable example...place the hedgehog in a supine position on a flat surface with soft lighting (preferably candle light), play soothing and intoxicating music such as one would find on a John Tesh album, open a bottle of vintage pinot noir and pour an ounce in an eye-dropper, with rubber sterile gloves (latex-free) stroke the belly of the hedgehog while whispering romantic sonnets in an Italian accent, using the eye-dropper expel the entire ounce of wine directly into the hedgehog's mouth, when the animal is fully relaxed as evidenced by the release of bowel and bladder content, carefully cradle him/her in your palms and procede to "the drop". Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
delor
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According to the link provided earlier, it appears that
"Place your hedgehogs new home in a comfortable, warm, well lit area that is free of drafts and direct sunlight. They are most comfortable at temperatures of between 65-80 degrees Fahrenheit. (18-27 degrees Celsius)."
I am assuming that if they are comfortable at 80 degrees, then a chiller is not necessary.
"Whatever commercial food you choose should be supplemented by a variety of other foods such as vegetables, mealworms and crickets, cooked meats and fruit and vegetables. However none of these should be fed as anything more than a treat 3 or 4 times a week."
I guess that answers the question about live food only.
According to www.abouthedgehogs.com , hogs should be kept solitary.
I just thought I would share this wealth of information.
"Place your hedgehogs new home in a comfortable, warm, well lit area that is free of drafts and direct sunlight. They are most comfortable at temperatures of between 65-80 degrees Fahrenheit. (18-27 degrees Celsius)."
I am assuming that if they are comfortable at 80 degrees, then a chiller is not necessary.
"Whatever commercial food you choose should be supplemented by a variety of other foods such as vegetables, mealworms and crickets, cooked meats and fruit and vegetables. However none of these should be fed as anything more than a treat 3 or 4 times a week."
I guess that answers the question about live food only.
According to www.abouthedgehogs.com , hogs should be kept solitary.
I just thought I would share this wealth of information.
Randall_James
Premium Member
Joke? what joke, where the heck you think salt pork comes from.
Age your hog for 3 days, thin slice and hang to dry over sump sides. Our family recipe calls for a bit of smoke flavor so we lay the stuff over the MH for 24 hours.
Age your hog for 3 days, thin slice and hang to dry over sump sides. Our family recipe calls for a bit of smoke flavor so we lay the stuff over the MH for 24 hours.
I would have to say that the DSB needs to be increased to 12" to facilitate the voracious burrowing habits of both male and female. I'm not telling you to take out your current live rock and corals, just take a couple of 55 gallon buckets, fill them up with a mixture of playsand,potting soil, and vanilla extract (preferrably a bottle from Mexico, much stronger soil retention) and let it set for 3 1/2 hours under a halogen shoplight. Then when good and ready quickly pour the suspension into the middle of the aquarium
The rush of water and sand should scatter the rocks and corals all around to the edges which will help create room for about 3 - 4 young healthy "hogs".
I'm still a novice at "hog" weilding but maybe some use will come of this.
The rush of water and sand should scatter the rocks and corals all around to the edges which will help create room for about 3 - 4 young healthy "hogs".
I'm still a novice at "hog" weilding but maybe some use will come of this.
delor
New member
Upon reading this forum, I have decided that I might like to get into keeping a "hog". I was thinking about breeding them, seeing the amount of interest this thread has created. HOWEVER, after reading this site, I have since changed my mind. I appears that "Breeding hedgehogs,..., isn't going to get you rich." Plus it appears that the survival rate amoung the newly born is not high. "had 46 hedgehogs born, and only 25 survived. About half of those weren't killed, they just died." This is less than a 50% survival rate, making this a very poor venture. I will continue to look into the matter, but I just wanted to share this information with anyone else thinking what I was thinking. If you want to keep "hogs", it should be for private use only, not as a captial gain. I will keep everyone posted.
BTW, I love the pictures. Your "hog" looks great sleeping on the bottom.
BTW, I love the pictures. Your "hog" looks great sleeping on the bottom.
Sick Sick Sick :lol:
Well now that I've spit Diet Coke all over my monitor it got me to thinking this hedgehog thing over and I have a few points I was pondering....
1. Will urchins take offense and act aggressively toward a hedgehog (bristles being as they are)
2. Will it be peaceful enough to live quietly with my mermaid, polar bear and penguin in my 100 gallon reef??
Well now that I've spit Diet Coke all over my monitor it got me to thinking this hedgehog thing over and I have a few points I was pondering....
1. Will urchins take offense and act aggressively toward a hedgehog (bristles being as they are)
2. Will it be peaceful enough to live quietly with my mermaid, polar bear and penguin in my 100 gallon reef??
