Kessil A360WE

[slief]

Doesn't seem to match, but okay.

Keep in mind that if you are looking at those numbers during a ramp period, the numbers you will see will be somewhere between the two points of the ramp. If for example you have a ramp from 25%-50% from 9AM to 11AM and you look at the numbers at 10AM, you should be seeing around 38%. Remember, VDM channel 1 and 3 is color and channel 2 and 4 is intensity. I'm sure you probably have it wired and programmed right but I thought I would point that out just in case.

Edit:
I just checked mine and the numbers are pretty much spot on to what I would expect. If the numbers don't match what you would expect to see, double check the time on the Apex. A couple minute difference between Apex time and the time on your computer will make a difference in your anticipated numbers.

 

[slief]

Doesn't seem to match, but okay.

I just checked my perfectentages again on the dash board just after a point in time that correlated with a graph point and the percentage was behind about 1%. My guess is that the Apex polls it's internal ports or Fusion polls the Apex for status info at specific intervals. Under Misc Setup in the Native Apex interface there is a field for "Data Log Interval". In my case, it's set to 10 which likely means that my Apex collects data related to ports and probes every 10 minutes. This is not status info (On/Off) but other info that likely include the percentage detail you see as well as probe values, temp etc. As such, the percentages you see in the dash board my only update every 10 minutes (default) or what ever you have that set to. While the native Apex interface displays that kind of info in realtime, Fusion is probably pulling the info from XML data and that kind of info is likely updated at the specified intervals as it is effectively a file that is being updated so that data can be extrapolated from outside sources whether it's Fusion or even Reeftronics.

This is the Misc Settings page that I am talking about.. Note the field for Data Log Interval..

 

[Ashr]

Am I able to due any dusk/dawn with out a APEX on these lights? Also, is there any word on the new controller being able to do this stuff in the future?

I am interested as I am building a 36x30x20 SPS tank and may run 2 of these but I am unsure if I want to go this way yet or not.

 

[slief]

Am I able to due any dusk/dawn with out a APEX on these lights? Also, is there any word on the new controller being able to do this stuff in the future?

I am interested as I am building a 36x30x20 SPS tank and may run 2 of these but I am unsure if I want to go this way yet or not.

The new Kessil controller does dusk dawn ramp ups and downs right out of the box. So yes, you can do that without an Apex but you will need a controller or some sort like the Kessil, Apex or other controller with 0-10v control.

 

[Ashr]

The new Kessil controller does dusk dawn ramp ups and downs right out of the box. So yes, you can do that without an Apex but you will need a controller or some sort like the Kessil, Apex or other controller with 0-10v control.

Awesome thanks!

What are your thoughts on having two of these on a 36x30x20 SPS Tank? I am trying to decide if I want these or ATI LED/T5 Hybrid 24"

 

[Yellow Eyes]

I just picked up one of these, and I noticed that a while before my intensity is all the way off, it shuts the light off. I then hooked it up to my Apex, and my light turns off at 13% intensity. Does anyone else have this issue? Or is it normal?

 

[slief]

I just picked up one of these, and I noticed that a while before my intensity is all the way off, it shuts the light off. I then hooked it up to my Apex, and my light turns off at 13% intensity. Does anyone else have this issue? Or is it normal?

It's normal. Some had said they cut off at 14%. I've seen closer to 10% but with a ramp down or up, it's difficult to determine exactly what percentage they are turning on or off at. I have a curve that goes from 10%-0% over the course of about 5 minutes for sunset and it turns off between 12 and 10% intensity. I ramp from 0%-10% over the course of 5 minutes to begin sunset and they turn on at about 10%.

Here is my initial Apex Fusion graph.. You can see the little 5 minute ramp I use to begin sunrise and end sunset.

 

[reefermad619]

Quick Q for you guys. How well do kessils dim? I'm thinking about running a couple of 360WE on a 120. I want smooth dimming. Not looking for the type of dimming that reefbreeders or evergrow fixtures do. I'm looking for smooth seamless dimming. Are the kessils capable of this. I am more than capable do diy my own fixture and my reefangel dimming expansion does 12 bit dimming. Just trying to figure out if kessils are the right choice. I emailed kessil, but never got a response. Thanks for the help.

 

[slief]

Quick Q for you guys. How well do kessils dim? I'm thinking about running a couple of 360WE on a 120. I want smooth dimming. Not looking for the type of dimming that reefbreeders or evergrow fixtures do. I'm looking for smooth seamless dimming. Are the kessils capable of this. I am more than capable do diy my own fixture and my reefangel dimming expansion does 12 bit dimming. Just trying to figure out if kessils are the right choice. I emailed kessil, but never got a response. Thanks for the help.

They dim amazingly well. You will not be disappointed. It's a very natural and smooth dimming. You don't even notice the transition. It's seamless both in color and intensity which is not surprising given that there are nearly 90 points to both color and intensity between 10% and 100% which makes for a very smooth transition. The lights shut off at about 10%... Some say 14% with an Apex but I seem to get about 10-12% on my Apex before mine shut off which is pretty dim. Like I said, you will not be dissapointed.

 

[reefermad619]

Thanks slief!

 

[potatocouch]

I want you guys to be brutally honest on this.

Can I ask for quick opinion on this schedule on my spectral controller:

3 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity
4 pm: 70% colour / 40% intensity
6 pm: 100% colour / 60% intensity
8 pm: 60% colour / 30% intensity
9 pm: 40% colour / 5% intensity
10 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity

Appreciate any feedback that you may have .. negative constructive feedback is most welcomed

 

[ganjero]

I want you guys to be brutally honest on this.

Can I ask for quick opinion on this schedule on my spectral controller:

3 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity
4 pm: 70% colour / 40% intensity
6 pm: 100% colour / 60% intensity
8 pm: 60% colour / 30% intensity
9 pm: 40% colour / 5% intensity
10 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity

Appreciate any feedback that you may have .. negative constructive feedback is most welcomed

It seems fine to me, but I don't think you can do 5% intensity with any controller. What controller are you using? Most controllers let you just set a parabola that makes it easier, you just need one line per channel to set the time frame and max % for each channel.

What tank are you tank dimensions and what corals are you keeping?

 

[Portsie]

Kessil A360WE

I want you guys to be brutally honest on this.

Can I ask for quick opinion on this schedule on my spectral controller:

3 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity
4 pm: 70% colour / 40% intensity
6 pm: 100% colour / 60% intensity
8 pm: 60% colour / 30% intensity
9 pm: 40% colour / 5% intensity
10 pm: 0% colour / 0% intensity

Appreciate any feedback that you may have .. negative constructive feedback is most welcomed

This is fine, but like ganjero said, the lights will shut off before they get to 5%. With the set up you have, I would expect the lights to turn on around 3:15 and off around 9:45. I think most are finding they are off anywhere below 12%-ish.

 

[trueperc]

Actually with Kessil controller you can do 5 % on both color and intensity and still have it producing light.

 

[m0nkie]

I adjusted mine to 95% intensity after I took a par reading... have 4 Kessils (2 A150W, 2 360WE)about 25" from sand level... my sandbed was at 70 par. It was about 200 par at 12" from LED.

had to readjust my clam's position

 

[wesleyforbes2]

I understand that this as a Kessil A360WE thread, but be on the lookout for the Kessil AP700 fixture! They are claiming onboard control-ability, and moonlighting and Wi-Fi.

 

[wesleyforbes2]

I just checked my perfectentages again on the dash board just after a point in time that correlated with a graph point and the percentage was behind about 1%. My guess is that the Apex polls it's internal ports or Fusion polls the Apex for status info at specific intervals. Under Misc Setup in the Native Apex interface there is a field for "Data Log Interval". In my case, it's set to 10 which likely means that my Apex collects data related to ports and probes every 10 minutes. This is not status info (On/Off) but other info that likely include the percentage detail you see as well as probe values, temp etc. As such, the percentages you see in the dash board my only update every 10 minutes (default) or what ever you have that set to. While the native Apex interface displays that kind of info in realtime, Fusion is probably pulling the info from XML data and that kind of info is likely updated at the specified intervals as it is effectively a file that is being updated so that data can be extrapolated from outside sources whether it's Fusion or even Reeftronics.

This is the Misc Settings page that I am talking about.. Note the field for Data Log Interval..

Thanks for the explanation. It seems correct for the intensity, but for the color, I don't get it. I just looked and it says 63%, but I have my max color at 39%...? :uhoh2:

 

[wesleyforbes2]

90 gallon powered by Kessil

90 gallon powered by Kessil

I thought I would show my 90 gallon mixed reef that is being lit by two Kessil A360WE's. I am running them through my Apex and have the max color @ 39% (tiny bit on the blue side) and max power @ 55%.

 

[potatocouch]

It seems fine to me, but I don't think you can do 5% intensity with any controller. What controller are you using? Most controllers let you just set a parabola that makes it easier, you just need one line per channel to set the time frame and max % for each channel

I'm using Kessil Spectral Controller.

Do you know what is the conversion of % colour to PAR reading? is there any formula to convert the % to PAR?

PAR = colour or PAR = intensity ?

 

[jessp]

If i can pick up the 350w blue tuna units for a good price are they worth it? I would be using a pair over a 57 gal rimless 36x18x20