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mfaso24 said:
I have to disagree a little on this. When you go diving, the coloration of corals is actually much bleaker in comparison to what we have in our tanks.


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A big part of that is because they collect the better looking corals for the hobby.. Why would they collect a brown coral it wont sell...
 
mfaso24 said:
I have to disagree a little on this. When you go diving, the coloration of corals is actually much bleaker in comparison to what we have in our tanks.


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He's actually right but you bring up a good point regarding the way corals look in nature vs what we see in some of our reefs. The reason coral looks so bleak in the ocean is because much for the red spectrum and other spectrums are filtered out by the water. The reason corals have the colors they do in our tanks is because of the artificial lighting and some of the color led's we use. Those colors such as the red diodes and green diodes don't do anything for growth. Instead they tend to make colors pop in corals that you wouldn't othersise see. Also, PAR is a great measurement tool for lighting intensity but since most PAR readers don't do a very good job reading the blue spectrum where corals get most of their needed photosynthetic radiation from (particularly 420nm-460nm), PAR becomes a much less useful tool for measuring light quality as it relates to our reefs. That blue spectrum is the primary lights spectrum that is left at the depth that many of or corals come from.
 
HippieSmell said:
Since there's all this talk of spectrum, does anyone know what spectrum the ap700 puts out at the different settings? I can't find the info anywhere and customer support hasn't responded to my request.

I appreciate it
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Only spectrum graphs I've seen are for the A360's. How different the 700 is, I have no idea but I doubt its very much.

 
HippieSmell said:
Does anyone know what the spectrum chart is for the different settings on the ap700?
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I have had lengthy discussions with Chan at Kessil he is incredibly helpful and insightful. There is no one spectral output graph for the AP700 that I know of due to the fact it is customizable. The AP700 includes "Kessil Logic" that will produce the right peaks for best coral growth and color that is independent of the kelvin/color you chose.

Here is Chan's email, fchan@kessil.com




Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
Confuse said:
For those of you with AP 700's, how is your coral coloration? Specifically, red corals? I have yet to stack my tank with corals since I got my lights. Just wondering how you're linking the color.

Currently, the left side of the color wheel doesn't incorporate the red and green leds and when I adjust the red and green leds in the setpoints, my intensity gets turned down to 70% max.

Any opinions?
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Contact Chan for the iPhone beta app, fchan@kessil.com. This new app lets you adjust the Reds and greens independently. I have two AP700 over my 180 and very happy with the color and growth. I have had the lights only ~3 months and with only about 12 SPS frags am using fully saturated Kalk for top off. They are growing very well considering only been recently acclimated. The colors do not appear washed out with blues, coverage is 200% better than 360sl, and they grow SPS of course. My reds and greens are very nice, balanced. Currently my lights are 7" above water, intensity peaks at 70% for three hours, and green/red @ 25% each. I had the 360s and no matter what spectrum you chose some color suffered leading to everyone useing the T5s to compensate.

In this video you can see my purple monti bottom left really nice pop. It was brown when I got it a month ago. I got a red digy today and I'll make a video with it if your interested. https://youtu.be/MAcm0CTVF3M


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
slief said:
He's actually right but you bring up a good point regarding the way corals look in nature vs what we see in some of our reefs. The reason coral looks so bleak in the ocean is because much for the red spectrum and other spectrums are filtered out by the water. The reason corals have the colors they do in our tanks is because of the artificial lighting and some of the color led's we use. Those colors such as the red diodes and green diodes don't do anything for growth. Instead they tend to make colors pop in corals that you wouldn't othersise see. Also, PAR is a great measurement tool for lighting intensity but since most PAR readers don't do a very good job reading the blue spectrum where corals get most of their needed photosynthetic radiation from (particularly 420nm-460nm), PAR becomes a much less useful tool for measuring light quality as it relates to our reefs. That blue spectrum is the primary lights spectrum that is left at the depth that many of or corals come from.
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The "Kessil Logic" built in to the programming of the AP700 removes guess work. The logic will include the best spectrum for growth and color no matter your preferred color choice. You chose the timing and color you prefer to see, and select the intensity. I get 200 PAR at the corner sand bed at only 60%. These are powerful lights and I would suggest a using the Seneye to find your sweet spots.




Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
bif24701 said:
The diffusers are more for reducing the sharp shimmer effect I think.
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blasphemy!

Kessil customer service is 5 star.

I recently purchased 2 A160WEs TB for my 120g FOWLR. One of them was a little noisy, noticeable when my pumps were off.

They sent me a replacement the same day I brought this to their attention but I received a A360WE instead of a 160.

The Kessil rep apologized for the mistake and offered to let me keep the 360 and just send back the noisy 160 (Kessil pays postage) and is mailing me a t-shirt for my troubles.

Being the idiot that I am, I declined the offer and have another 160 in the mail headed my way.
 
bigfruits said:
blasphemy!

Kessil customer service is 5 star.

I recently purchased 2 A160WEs TB for my 120g FOWLR. One of them was a little noisy, noticeable when my pumps were off.

They sent me a replacement the same day I brought this to their attention but I received a A360WE instead of a 160.

The Kessil rep apologized for the mistake and offered to let me keep the 360 and just send back the noisy 160 (Kessil pays postage) and is mailing me a t-shirt for my troubles.

Being the idiot that I am, I declined the offer and have another 160 in the mail headed my way.
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Not an idiot just an Honest person!
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Scorpius said:
They're a Taiwanese company. :lol:
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No it is not :

DiCon conducts research, development, manufacturing and marketing at its headquarters in Richmond, California. The company also operates a manufacturing and sales facility in Kaohsiung, Taiwan.
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There an American company with a manufacturing plant in Taiwan.
 
So, what's the verdict on the ap700? I'm looking to get 3 for a 78x36x27 inch mixed reef tank. I haven't seen them in person, but I'm hoping it's not just a blue disco ball with harsh shadows.

Right now, I'm running a 400W Reflux 12k. Can anyone compare?
 
I love mine. Will be running 2 on a 60/27/27 190 that will be setup few weeks.

They just released diffusers that will reduce the shimmer and help with the shadowing.


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Scorpius said:
American company would say Made in America on their product. I know most will disagree with me.
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Not if they manufactured it somewhere else. Companies like Dell, IBM etc have American and overseas manufacturing plants but are American companies.
 
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