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Lanthanum chloride
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Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
thanks for sharing that info J 
Thank you Gary...
You are in the right way.
Skimmer is not good filtering lanthanum/phosphate precipitation ...
Precipitation is bad in the fish gills and filterers animals...
It is very important (as you said) the mechanical filtration...
precipitation size is of few microns...
Water floss is good enough catching the precipitation.
I´m going to find a pic with lanthanum-phosphate precipitation catched by water floss...
2 minutes...
You are in the right way.
Skimmer is not good filtering lanthanum/phosphate precipitation ...
Precipitation is bad in the fish gills and filterers animals...
It is very important (as you said) the mechanical filtration...
precipitation size is of few microns...
Water floss is good enough catching the precipitation.
I´m going to find a pic with lanthanum-phosphate precipitation catched by water floss...
2 minutes...
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Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
yes
yes
very good photo
yes
very good photo
Very nice reactor design,jk5,.Thankyou for sharing it and your experience and dosage levels.
Does anyone know if using lanthanum chloride while using gfo is contraindicated in anyway? I don't think it is and have been using very small amounts 15 ml of Brightwell Phosphate E in 575 gal to compliment gfo which at least for now is still my mainstay for PO4 reduction.
Does anyone know if using lanthanum chloride while using gfo is contraindicated in anyway? I don't think it is and have been using very small amounts 15 ml of Brightwell Phosphate E in 575 gal to compliment gfo which at least for now is still my mainstay for PO4 reduction.
Gary Majchrzak
Team RC
oh man... you might want to ask Randy Holmes-Farley that one, Tom.
melev
Well-known member
Based on Jk5's translation, that goes along with my idea about dosing the skimmer itself. If you could add one drop every 10 minutes to the reaction area, I think it would work well. On my reef, I've been dosing 120 drops. Unfortunately, it would take 20 hours of dosing to pull it off, but the system would remain completely unaware of the chemical reaction since it would be focused in the skimmer body itself.
I don't ever see myself dosing a drop every 10 minutes though, all day long.
I don't ever see myself dosing a drop every 10 minutes though, all day long.
KurtsReef
Premium Member
If/when I dose this...which I have not bought any or dosed it yet...
I had thought of dosing into the overflow which drains into the skimmer. I should have my 10 micron socks this week, of course taking the time to stop at a pool store to find the LC will take me another month or so. There are days that dosing a drop or two into that area every 10 minutes or so would not be an issue for several hours, If I had a Phosphate meter it would be interesting to test after every hour of doing it that way.
I had thought of dosing into the overflow which drains into the skimmer. I should have my 10 micron socks this week, of course taking the time to stop at a pool store to find the LC will take me another month or so. There are days that dosing a drop or two into that area every 10 minutes or so would not be an issue for several hours, If I had a Phosphate meter it would be interesting to test after every hour of doing it that way.
SkiFletch
New member
I use PhosFree Plus from Leslies, only active ingredient listed is Lanthanum Chloride.
FWIW I dose directly into my 100 micron socks for a month now. Havent seen any problems with my fish, corals, or my Tridacnid clam. Occasionally the clam's mantle looks a little blotchy but I've also had troulbes with maintaining calc/alk recently now that my coral load has drastically increased demand. So I can't rule the two out of each other.
I will say that this stuff gums up filter socks quick and is significantly more difficult to get out. After washing in bleach They're still brown stained more than they used to be. Then I usually give them a soak in some muriatic acid with water which stinks something fierce but gets em nice and clean. Few rinses in RO water and one rinse in water with baking soda and They're pressed back into service. After reading that thread about DIY filter socks I'm gonna see if I can find some 10 micron material and make my own
FWIW I dose directly into my 100 micron socks for a month now. Havent seen any problems with my fish, corals, or my Tridacnid clam. Occasionally the clam's mantle looks a little blotchy but I've also had troulbes with maintaining calc/alk recently now that my coral load has drastically increased demand. So I can't rule the two out of each other.
I will say that this stuff gums up filter socks quick and is significantly more difficult to get out. After washing in bleach They're still brown stained more than they used to be. Then I usually give them a soak in some muriatic acid with water which stinks something fierce but gets em nice and clean. Few rinses in RO water and one rinse in water with baking soda and They're pressed back into service. After reading that thread about DIY filter socks I'm gonna see if I can find some 10 micron material and make my own
you can use water floss...
when water floos is saturated in a few days you replace it...
water floss is good enough catching the precipitation...
The best method is making lanthanum reaction in a reactor and dosing in the reactor with peristaltics and filtering the reactor output with water floss.
Making very little po4 removals each day...
when water floos is saturated in a few days you replace it...
water floss is good enough catching the precipitation...
The best method is making lanthanum reaction in a reactor and dosing in the reactor with peristaltics and filtering the reactor output with water floss.
Making very little po4 removals each day...
dbartkow
New member
Wow, this is pretty interesting stuff! I have a pretty small system (29 gallons) and no skimmer. As a result, I am forced to minimize the amount of food going in. I would love to be able to feed heavy and have the ability to remove any excess phosphates.
If I was to make a lanthanum reactor, would that be sufficient to remove the lanthanum/phosphate precipitation? Any thoughts? Has anyone tried this on a small system (like 30 gallons)?
Dave
If I was to make a lanthanum reactor, would that be sufficient to remove the lanthanum/phosphate precipitation? Any thoughts? Has anyone tried this on a small system (like 30 gallons)?
Dave
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