Leopard Wrasse Primer

Leopard Wrasse Primer

  • Macropharyngodon bipartitus

    Votes: 67 28.4%

  • Macropharyngodon choati

    Votes: 12 5.1%

  • Macropharyngodon geoffroy

    Votes: 24 10.2%

  • Macropharyngodon meleagris

    Votes: 78 33.1%

  • Macropharyngodon negrosensis

    Votes: 29 12.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 26 11.0%
  • Total voters
    236
I have an established 4" potters male. I have located 2 juveniles that are healthy and eating very well. Do you guys think that they will get beat up by the male?
 
i would think that there could be some squabbles but i myself would take the chance as they are so beautiful. any new addition can create chaos as i have found out many times . it sometimes doesn't matter what the new fish is and it just upsets the whole karma of the tank . if he does start any antics then i would be ready to do some aquascaping to change up the territories and that will usually help things calm down . sometimes the way that the rock work is set up its impossible to do this but i have my tanks so i can easily move stuff about the tank .i wish you the best and hope that you do decide to try them as i would myself .

on another note Ralph that's an exact replica of my small potters wrasse and they look so awesome with the colors that they exhibit .such a great tank mate too as they are usually very docile .
its amazing how many people are opening their eyes to the wrasses these days and they get bought up so fast at my lfs so i have to be there every time they get fish in . usually i get them pre ordered and purchase them right in the bag as this is the best way to get them IMO .
 
I am going to get them on Wednesday. On a side note, I picked up a pair of Pseudojuloides ceracinus on Saturday. They are eating really well and seem to be getting along great with everyone. Pencils are highly underrated.
 
iamwrasseman said:
some times the chasing is territorial if its only to "move" a fish out of ones area . if it is everywhere throughout the tank then there will usually be difficulties in stopping it . try feeding less more often first and see if it subsides . also ,you can do a bit of aquascaping and sometimes that too will help . if not i would suggest removing the aggressor and QT for a week then adding him back into the tank and again if you were to move some stuff around before the addition it may also help .you may have two juvies that are both trying to morph into male and dominate at the same time and one may precede the other thus changing back into female . usually when i have chasing issues it does subside over the period of a week or two as they figure things out .is your tank large enough for multiples ?75 gallon i do think is large enough for what you have and i would think the clown fish would be the PITA .
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Thanks a lot for taking the time, Mr. Wrasseman. I appreciate it.

The chasing is definately throughout the tank. As though the one is looking for the other and when it finds it, well, you know how quickly they zip around. Yesterday, I thought I noticed the chasee kind of turn back for a second and look at the aggressor and say, hey, do we really have to keep doing this? I felt that represented a slight change. The chasee is still eating. I see it sneak out for a few mysis when I feed. I will try feeding less food more often.

When you ask if the tank has room for multiples, do you mean does it have room for the pair, or do you mean does it have room for a larger group than 2? Are trios more stable socially in general?

Are there any ways I can tell if one or both are going male? If they've both started, one can go back? I don't know if I can catch the agressor to move to QT but I could try. What would be your threshold for trying to move it out? Is it the all-over-the-tank chasing? That's been going on about a week.

I know the clowns may change their tune if they start laying and I'm definitely prepared to move them. (I'd move every fish I have to keep the leopards happy). But for now, they are extremely mellow. I have a theory they're a tiny bit dumb from being bred so much at ORA. :lmao:

Thanks!
 
I had a question I currently have a meleagris in my tank but plan on upgrading real soon I want to get another meleagris should I introduce them in the new tank at the same time or should I put the one I currently have in last?
 
Update on my Meleagris Leopard, it started eating some cyclops after about 1 week and is also eating PE Mysis and NLS pellets now.


96gts said:
I added a Meleagris Leopard Wrasse on Saturday, it went into the sand a few minutes after introducing into the tank. I didn't see it all day Sunday, but it was out when I got home from work on Monday. I fed it Rod's food, PE Mysis and Cyclops, but it was still not eating. The LFS had it for about 2 weeks before I bought it, and it's still look kinda fat. So hopefully it will start eating soon. I also have an Ornate Leopard Wrasse in the tank for about 7-8months now, along with a few other wrasses and a Blue Regal Tang.

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small alien said:
Hey there, Mr. The Spike. Did you see much in the way of chasing as your leopards sexually differentiated themselves.

I have two 2" juvis that eat like crazy and have been super peaceful for about a month and a half. In the last several days, one has begun chasing the other.

Did you see that?

Anyone else comment on how two juvis differentiate? Is it like clowns with squabbling?

Thanks.

P.S. I LOVE LEOPARD WRASSES! There, I said it.:rolleyes:
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small alien said:
Can anyone help me out with some perspective on the chasing issue. It continues. In fact, it's nearly noon and the chasee is not out yet today which is unusual. The chasing seems to be causing it a good deal of stress. Thoughts?

Thanks.
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small alien said:
Thanks a lot for taking the time, Mr. Wrasseman. I appreciate it.

The chasing is definately throughout the tank. As though the one is looking for the other and when it finds it, well, you know how quickly they zip around. Yesterday, I thought I noticed the chasee kind of turn back for a second and look at the aggressor and say, hey, do we really have to keep doing this? I felt that represented a slight change. The chasee is still eating. I see it sneak out for a few mysis when I feed. I will try feeding less food more often.

When you ask if the tank has room for multiples, do you mean does it have room for the pair, or do you mean does it have room for a larger group than 2? Are trios more stable socially in general?

Are there any ways I can tell if one or both are going male? If they've both started, one can go back? I don't know if I can catch the agressor to move to QT but I could try. What would be your threshold for trying to move it out? Is it the all-over-the-tank chasing? That's been going on about a week.

I know the clowns may change their tune if they start laying and I'm definitely prepared to move them. (I'd move every fish I have to keep the leopards happy). But for now, they are extremely mellow. I have a theory they're a tiny bit dumb from being bred so much at ORA. :lmao:

Thanks!
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Hey, sorry for the late response, busy weekend kept me away from the computer...

I havent seen any aggression between the two leopards, they are always within about 6" of one another. Sorry, I cannot help, I would defer to Dave in this matter.

One of mine looks exactly like the pic above, and the white between the spots of the other one is slightly green, like the lowest color in the anal fin above only all over, and the spots themselves look more orange than brown. Y'all think this is the beginning of a sex change?
 
rgentry123 said:
i love BRK and atlantis. i'm closest to atlantis so thats the place i go most often. they really only ever seem to have the potters leopards though and i've been on the hunt for a bipart. for a while now. have you found any bipart's in the LFS's closer to you? also, i've been thinking about hitting some other LFS's in the DC area for a while but am not sure if there's really any point to, atlantis is such a great place, for the most they always have what i want and if they dont then normally BRK does. any of the other places you mentioned worth checking out? and yeah, i signed up for wamas but never actually sent my check for my annual fee or whatever it is so i think they kicked me out. :o i've been meaning to send it in though.
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Marine scene gets them in on a reasonably frequent basis... if you sign up for their newsletter, they say most weeks what the new stock is, so you can keep an eye out for them.

I agree about Atlantis, it is better than most in the DC area. IMO, BRK is the best in the area. If you are going to go for a drive, I would recommend Exotic Aquatics or Pacific East Aquaculture, those two are both stellar and definitely worth it. Haha about WAMAS, hopefully I will see you there soon!
 
^wow, I hadnt noticed kuiter's leopards there before... I noticed they are not in stock currently, has anyone seen them in stock there?
 
Let's talk about feeding/overfeeding for a change.

I use 3 methods of feeding:

1. I make my own mix, freeze it, blah, blah, blah.
2. Live stuff


and lastly, the thaw cube method. THIS IS MY QUESTION!

If I am working, I feed ONCE per day. I take 3 cubes of Spirulina brine, 2 cubes PE mysis, thaw in ro, rinse, soak in 3-4 drops of selcon and feed. lasts about 10 minutes.

85 gallon tank, 2 leopards, 1 flame, 1 Christmas, 1 Melanurus, 2 false percs, one aurora gobi...............

AM I OVERFEEDING? I try to feed 2 times a day (obviously 1/2 of that, but......)

WHAT DO YOU THINK? SHOULD I CUT BACK? I mean, fish are fat and happy, lol.

Thanks!
 
they have not been in stock since the picture came up as far as i know . i saw it a couple of weeks ago so lets hope they are coming . i just put in an order for three choati leopards so the saga begins again and we will see what the future brings .
Ralph ,i would tend to think that you are over feeding but your tank will tell .is there any food left when the fish are finished eating?you need to look where the food goes and see if it flows behind rocks or somewhere else also.always use this rule of thumb ,the stomach is the size of their eyes and you then will not be overfeeding .as far as wrasses go most of what you have are pickers and they like to eat little all day .my other rule of thumb for feeding is two minutes after feeding the food should be gone completely ,so your ten minutes is long as there is alot of time for the food to get stuck in crevices and disappear but not get eaten.
 
I took the plunge and added two juvenile potters with my existing male the other day. They have both come out and are feeding aggressively. My male is even protecting them from my hippo tang. Only time will tell if I will have long term success.
 
Glad to hear it! I was down at seascape and they got in the two juveniles and I just had to try it. The SPS frag you gave me looks awesome too! Some of the green is starting to come out between the blue.
 
well were at it again as i just got three choati leopard wrasses today and now time will tell . pictures soon and i will keep ya all posted on their .............?
 
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