There are particular situations that allow us to take the optics off.
1: a tank that is 18 inches deep or less.
2: Any tank that is 36 inches long. (Any longer I would suggest 2 units even with the optics off
3. If the tank is longer than 36 inches but shorter than 72 inches than 2 165w units will be ok for tanks 18 inches deep or less.
Any tank deeper than 18 inches I would suggest leaving the optics on regardless of the length of the tank.
From 18-24 inches you lose a significant amount of PAR.
This is all from my personal experience and testing.
From my discussions with the mfg, the whites without optics are 120 degrees, while the blues and the rest are 90 degrees with no optics, so optics off won't get you a spread any better than 90 degrees except the whites. Might make sense to add 90 degree optics to the whites. Think it would be a good compromise.