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when will it ever end :rolleyes:

There are already boat loads of posts all over the place about arguments like this. :frog:













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I just don't understand what gives everyone the right to judge. I would not put another tang in my tank because its to full of corals but I took that hippo because the guy was going to toss him after twelve years. I've had him for five and I know he is small but he went from one 75 to another and seems to be healthy. What makes a fish healthier because he is larger? 17 years is 17 years no matter how you see it and I feel that is very good for a fish. By the time I got him I don't think putting him in a larger tank would have helped because I believe he was done growing. I'm no fish expert but I try and take very good care of my fish and have not lost any for years except for a jumper. I guess when you guys post you lost a 12" five year old tang thats better than my 6" one living 17+ years. I just don't see the logic. If I were the fish I'd take the 17 years.
 
I just don't understand what gives everyone the right to judge. I would not put another tang in my tank because its to full of corals but I took that hippo because the guy was going to toss him after twelve years. I've had him for five and I know he is small but he went from one 75 to another and seems to be healthy. What makes a fish healthier because he is larger? 17 years is 17 years no matter how you see it and I feel that is very good for a fish. By the time I got him I don't think putting him in a larger tank would have helped because I believe he was done growing. I'm no fish expert but I try and take very good care of my fish and have not lost any for years except for a jumper. I guess when you guys post you lost a 12" five year old tang thats better than my 6" one living 17+ years. I just don't see the logic. If I were the fish I'd take the 17 years.
If anyone criticized you for what you did, I missed it. I don't know what your fish's exact health situation is. But in life, some people can smoke a pack a day and never get cancer or emphysema and others are not that strong. It seems possible this fish just has really good genes. It does seem to be the exception to the rule.
 
The industry needs to breed 6" blue hippo tangs that are full grown. Maybe the new ones will only get to be 6". Dwarfs (selective breeding), why not we do it with dogs, plants, cows, horses etc. jkeim kudos to you for not letting the fish die, it may dream of being in the ocean but if it wasnt for you the fish couldnt dream at all.
 
chumcrazy, we CAN'T breed dwarf tangs because we can't breed tangs. Period. There ARE no captive-breds for most of the species in our tanks. The exceptions are clowns: huge exception. Dottybacks; cardinals; a couple of the very small gobies. There may be mandys. Not sure on that one. But in general, the fish you keep come from the ocean. Only. Period. THat's WHY we urge you to quarantine them. And why we try to inform you that you are buying infant fish, NOT fullgrown fish. Tangs are caught at very small size, because the spur of an adult would puncture a shipping bag, and stores could not stock these combative, fast-swimming fish in adult size without tanks to rival a public aquarium. Plus there is no way you could buy an 40" adult of some of these species and get it home in the car: you'd need a delivery truck. Movers. Four strong guys to get its shipping carton up the front steps. Ever seen tuna? Seen two guys struggling to lift a frozen tuna? That's about 40" of fish.

No, they're not bred, they're not manufactured, they're not made. They are a wild fish from the deep ocean.
 
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If anyone criticized you for what you did, I missed it. I don't know what your fish's exact health situation is. But in life, some people can smoke a pack a day and never get cancer or emphysema and others are not that strong. It seems possible this fish just has really good genes. It does seem to be the exception to the rule.
Lets just call him a perfectly healthy midget since he has not grown since I got him from the guy. I did however fatten him up as the guy told me he was only a meat eater and looked undernurished but thats not the case anymore. I do understand everyones arguement its just tough to believe that is always the case. Hopefully he is arround next summer when I upgrade to my 180 but I still don't believe it matters to this particular fish either way .
 
It may help him a bit, jkeim, and I now understand your holding on to him: that 180 will give him a bit more exercise, and if you can arrange him a 'racetrack,' at least quarter-horse style, when you are setting up the rockwork, something may awake in his brain and get him into motion.

I read elsewhere a post from somebody who'd kept a lionfish in a 50, and the fish was very still. Transferred into a 100, it suddenly began swimming around, feeding and acting very differently, so let's hope the same for your rescue-fish.
 
Lets just call him a perfectly healthy midget since he has not grown since I got him from the guy. I did however fatten him up as the guy told me he was only a meat eater and looked undernurished but thats not the case anymore. I do understand everyones arguement its just tough to believe that is always the case. Hopefully he is arround next summer when I upgrade to my 180 but I still don't believe it matters to this particular fish either way .

Go ask the guys living in an 8'x4' cell 23 hours a day on death row if they feel cramped.
 
Man, you guys really don't like a tang in a smaller tank. I agree that tangs like a Powder Blue, Naso, Achilles, etc. would be best kept in a 6+ foot tank. But I've kept Yellow Tangs (and similar) in a 4 foot (and even 3 foot) tank for years with no issues. I agree when they get too big they need to be moved to a bigger tank, but if you get a small enough one to start that could be 3-4 years down the road.
 
Thats part of the whole discussion. A healthy yellow tang should outgrow a 3-4ft tank in about 6 months to a year. If it takes 3-4 years to outgrow it, something isnt right.
 
One of my LFS has a I believe full grown i don't think he is a Scopas tang, But he is the same shape and black, Unless they darken when full grown, Ill try and go and take a picture, These fish are big! I cant picture one of these grown fish in a small tank, honestly.
 
One of my LFS has a I believe full grown i don't think he is a Scopas tang, But he is the same shape and black, Unless they darken when full grown, Ill try and go and take a picture, These fish are big! I cant picture one of these grown fish in a small tank, honestly.
A LFS here had a 40,000g salt tank with unicorn tangs and a group of yellows -- same here - I can't picture those fish in a small tank. I think they make a 180 look small. That was also when I learned how a relaxed flame angel appears. I used to sit and watch that fish for what is cumulatively many hours. After that the thought of Centropyges in less than a 55g now makes me wince.
 
A LFS here had a 40,000g salt tank with unicorn tangs and a group of yellows -- same here - I can't picture those fish in a small tank. I think they make a 180 look small. That was also when I learned what flame angels appear when in a comfortable situation. I used to sit and watch that fish for 30 minutes. The thought of Centropyges in less than a 55g makes me wince.

The difference is that in my LFS someone dropped him off because he got "too big" now he is in search/NEED of a home suitable for him. he is in the normal fish cubicles...
 
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