My Breeding attempt - Perculas:

[dazed]

Are they still eating them?
I thought that had something to do with their diet.

With mine all i have seen is the male taking care of the eggs while the female runs off the ones that get to close at times. I have seen him remove the eggs that turn white, but i am pretty sure that they are not eating them so i hope i found the problem.

I currently have a batch on the tile in my reef that was laid on Monday evening (6-30-08) so today is the 4th day and so far so good the eggs have changed from orange to brown already now i just need to figure out when to pull them out, so i can have another chance at raising the larvae.

 

[rkelman]

They stopped laying all together. It could be diet or stress who knows. I've increased feedings but that didn't help so I decreased back to where I was when they started laying. They were 3 weeks or so late. Then I just upgraded to my new 190g so I don't expect them to start again right away. If they don't after a couple months I may start a broodstock tank for just them in case its stress related.. Good luck with yours. Mine would have been mostly eaten by now if thats any reassurance for you..

 

[dazed]

Yeah who knows, maybe she has a headache :lol:
Mine started laying for the first time about a month after being moved into the new tank.

I should know in the next couple of days if the problem with the eggs vanishing has been fixed or not. right now i can see the eyes they are still black little dots.

before it was taking 9 days to hatch but with the warmer temps. around here lately my reef has been a little warmer than usual so i am going to try and judge when to take them out. the last couple of batches did not make it past day 6 before something happened so i am keeping my fingers crossed that i can get a chance to try again.

 

[dazed]

ok i am looking for some suggestions on how to proceed this time around.

the current batch of eggs in my reef were laid on monday evening. That makes today (Saturday) the start of day 5. The eggs do not appear to me to be silver tipped yet but the last 2 batches went away by day 6.

Should i pull the tile/eggs tonight and hope they hatch or leave them with the male to care for?

I am concerened that if i pull them tonight it could be a day or 2 maybe 3 before they would hatch in the larvae tank.

The good news so far is i have not seen the eggs being reduced in numbers since i pulled out those 2 peppermint shrimp. I still have my fingers crossed that they were the issue.

 

[rkelman]

I vote leave them.

 

[FB]

Leave them. You will now who the culprit is if they don't get eatan.

 

[dazed]

Noted anybody else??

 

[billsreef]

FB's right, if you leave them you will know for sure if those shrimp were to blame for earlier losses.

 

[Abominable Reef]

My vote is to leave them too. I share your frustration, but keep them in the tank. There might just be something wrong with the previous batches, and the clowns are eating them.

my $0.02

 

[agsansoo]

Tribal counsel has votes. Leave them. LOL How do they look today ?

 

[dazed]

Well i may have screwed up, again, lol. I got home last night & the eggs were silver tipped on top; (reeftank temp was 82 deg.) so i went through the motions of pulling the tile and placing it in the 5g larvae tank, added rotifers & 3ml of IA to green up the water, and adjust the air to barely move the eggs around. This morning they did not hatch, maybe tonight.

I think i may have been a bit impatient but i did not want this batch to hatch in the reeftank i really wanted to have another attempt with the fry. So i guess i now have my fingers crossed that they will hatch tonight.

 

[agsansoo]

Good luck this time. Hope they hatch out tonight. Check your ammonia tonight also, just in case.

 

[FB]

As long as the bubbles are on them they will hatch when they are ready. Are you using the heater that was in your main tank. hopefully this will help with your Ammonia problems.

One of my tanks has been running for almost 4 weeks now without a sponge filter. My ammonia has remained zero from day 1. Once the bacteria form you may be good to go.

GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[billsreef]

I expect to hear about a good hatch tomorrow morning

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12895807#post12895807 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by agsansoo
Good luck this time. Hope they hatch out tonight. Check your ammonia tonight also, just in case.

Yeah i hope so as well. For now the badge reads all good but i plan to test the tank tonight as well.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12896299#post12896299 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
As long as the bubbles are on them they will hatch when they are ready. Are you using the heater that was in your main tank. hopefully this will help with your Ammonia problems.

One of my tanks has been running for almost 4 weeks now without a sponge filter. My ammonia has remained zero from day 1. Once the bacteria form you may be good to go.

GOOD LUCK!!!

I have the bubbles gently moving most of them around at least as best as i can tell, the bubbles are not actual touching the eggs just a slow steady stream in front of them, if that makes sense. I did not clean off the heater from my sump i just took it out & placed in the larvae tank. I hope that it might help this time around. WOW 4 weeks i can only hope

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12896337#post12896337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
I expect to hear about a good hatch tomorrow morning

Me to

I did turn the light on at luch over the larvae tank i don't know if that is nessecary or not? but i figured it would help keep things the same.

 

[dazed]

No hatch last night::thumbdown
What i did see this morning though i don't think is good (2) of the eggs on the tile have turned white so they are done for; but what i am confused about is that about half of the eggs seem to be covered in green algae some of it kind of stringy looking? Seems strange to me because i have not used any home grown phyto this time around i have been adding the IA from reed. Anyone know what would be causing this?

 

[FB]

I have not seen anything like that before. I would slightly increase your bubbles, it dosen't look like you are getting enough movement to keep them clean.

EDIT: Are they still silver???

 

[Lifes A Beach]

Did you see the eggs moving at all when the bubbles are going? If they aren't moving, my thinking is that there was not enough water circulation around them to keep any algae or fungus from forming on them. The green stuff will accumulate if the circulation is not good and the eggs are dead. I don't add IA to the egg tank water until the fry actually hatch (to try and keep the water as sterile and clean as possible)

--Barbara
:fish1:

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12902503#post12902503 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
I have not seen anything like that before. I would slightly increase your bubbles, it dosen't look like you are getting enough movement to keep them clean.

EDIT: Are they still silver???

I did bump up the bubbles a bit this morning because that's all i could think of doing for now.
Yes the eggs are still silver even the ones that appear to have the algae on them, when i shine the flashlight into the tank i can see the silver eyes still.

I wonder how badly this might effect the hatching process??

 

[dazed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12902724#post12902724 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lifes A Beach
Did you see the eggs moving at all when the bubbles are going? If they aren't moving, my thinking is that there was not enough water circulation around them to keep any algae or fungus from forming on them. The green stuff will accumulate if the circulation is not good and the eggs are dead. I don't add IA to the egg tank water until the fry actually hatch (to try and keep the water as sterile and clean as possible)

--Barbara
:fish1:

Yes the eggs were moving ever so gently before; I was concerned this time around with the bubbles being to much as i had allot of die-off last time in the first day, which i believe was from physical damage because they did not starve in that short period of time.

I added the rotifers and IA because i was assuming they would hatch sooner than this, I thought this was an ok approach though to place the tile in the tank along with rotifers and phyto this way giving the rotifers a head start of a whole night swimming around in greenwater before the larvae hatch to consume them??

I just did not plan on 3 days in the tank and no hatch live & learn i guess.