My chrysogasters are grandparents
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Rare Angels
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Marina,
The tank is coming along nicely, have several corals in it along with only a couple of fish right now.
I just added a merten's anemone also, it had a long hard road but I think it's going to make it. I will get some pictures in the next couple of days.
The tank is coming along nicely, have several corals in it along with only a couple of fish right now.
I just added a merten's anemone also, it had a long hard road but I think it's going to make it. I will get some pictures in the next couple of days.
LOL, that's what I was thinking. Where's Scott?
Congratulations Marina. Will look forward to progress reports.
Trek Rider
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Congrats Marina
shifty51008
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I would love to find a pair, they are beautiful fish
ThRoewer
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Inbreeding only becomes a problem after several generations. F1, F2 and even F3 should definitely be fine.
More important is to know who bred them and that they have not been hybridized. Also the parents should ideally come from the same region so that you don't have a mish-mash of local variants or even unbeknown hybrids. This is especially important with "species" that have a large distribution range and many local variants (which may turn out to be currently undescribed species). A. clarkii is a good example.
The defects you see on many captive bred clowns are not coming primarily from inbreeding but rather poor breeding conditions, insufficient food quality and other shortcomings in the process.
Add to that designer clowns with often poor selection standards. Often a color scheme is more important than deformations. As a result most commercially bred clowns are pretty much sub-standard and unfit for breeding (at least if you want to know what you are breeding).
I've been breeding various clownfish species from 1983 to 2003 and even my worst babies looked better what you find today in stores for rather ridiculous prices.
Another issue is that many hobby breeder breed whatever they have out of ignorance or intentionally. Fish from such pairings are absolutely useless if not outright harmful to the conservational aspect of breeding.
Add to that the designer hybrids floating around everywhere and captive bred clownfish without documented lineage are nothing I would ever want to have, let alone breed with.
If your goal is breeding I would ideally try to get wild specimen, ideally with precisely know origin. Captive bred with known origin and lineage are the next best thing, especially for hard to get species.
I currently have 4 A. percula from the Solomons, two from the same shipment.
BTW: back in my beginner days I had a single A chrysogaster (the store sold it as clarkii). Unfortunately I never managed to find a matching partner for him.
More important is to know who bred them and that they have not been hybridized. Also the parents should ideally come from the same region so that you don't have a mish-mash of local variants or even unbeknown hybrids. This is especially important with "species" that have a large distribution range and many local variants (which may turn out to be currently undescribed species). A. clarkii is a good example.
The defects you see on many captive bred clowns are not coming primarily from inbreeding but rather poor breeding conditions, insufficient food quality and other shortcomings in the process.
Add to that designer clowns with often poor selection standards. Often a color scheme is more important than deformations. As a result most commercially bred clowns are pretty much sub-standard and unfit for breeding (at least if you want to know what you are breeding).
I've been breeding various clownfish species from 1983 to 2003 and even my worst babies looked better what you find today in stores for rather ridiculous prices.
Another issue is that many hobby breeder breed whatever they have out of ignorance or intentionally. Fish from such pairings are absolutely useless if not outright harmful to the conservational aspect of breeding.
Add to that the designer hybrids floating around everywhere and captive bred clownfish without documented lineage are nothing I would ever want to have, let alone breed with.
If your goal is breeding I would ideally try to get wild specimen, ideally with precisely know origin. Captive bred with known origin and lineage are the next best thing, especially for hard to get species.
I currently have 4 A. percula from the Solomons, two from the same shipment.
BTW: back in my beginner days I had a single A chrysogaster (the store sold it as clarkii). Unfortunately I never managed to find a matching partner for him.
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